Let's get something straight about Hunter Biden's guilty tax charge

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I keep hearing that this is double-tiered justice, that Hunter Biden's pleading guilty to a tax charge, which is a misdemeanor because it's for filing taxes late, he's getting favorable treatment.

    Thousands of people file late, make payment arrangements, and never get charged.

    Let's be clear, Hunter wasn't charge for tax evasion. Hunter paid his tax bill, it's just that he paid it late. How many people are charged with filing late and paying late?

    Very few people are.

    . I filed late and paid late. No charges. This is true for MOST people.

    But, if charged, this is why it is a misdemeanor.

    Well, actually, In 2021, Biden paid all of the outstanding taxes he owed for 2017 and 2018, the years named in the charges. Biden wasn't charged with failure to file returns for those years. He filed returns but agreed to plead guilty to not having paid enough in both years, which was over $100,000. so, was it a miscalculation? Honest mistakes aren't necessarily criminal. I gather that rather than go through an expensive trial, a misdemeanor is something he could live with and pled out. Nixon shorted the gov $500k (in 1972 dollars) and he just paid it, no 'jail time' or charges were filed.

    So, in my view, If Hunter's name were not "Biden', he most likely never would have been charged, just like they don't charge most people for filing late.

    And this Idea they are being hard on Trump is also nonsense.

    If his name weren't Trump he would be in jail . Document #19 on the FBI Inventory list, an S/FRD file, (Secret/Formerly Restricted Data, a nuclear secret doc) alone would do the trick for prison if anyone else had it and refused to hand it back to the government.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-are-classified-documents-trump-indictment

    S/FRD classification are one notch under the highest, which is S/RD. In order for members of the pentagon to review the documents, they had to be lowered a notch to S/FRD in order to view them, which is the only reason for the classification so do not confuse the word 'formerly' wrongfully meaning it's no longer a nuclear secret. Not true. This is a very high classification.

    The bottom line is that for 5 years on investigation, the best Weiss could pin on Biden was two misdemeanors. He, like Durham, have done a lot of investigation and have little to show for it.
     
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    And the felony gun crime?
     
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    He is only being charged now because it would have been worse if they didn't and republicans gained control of the DOJ.
     
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    Prince Hunter gets a free ride on a gun charge that would send any other American to jail.

    We are done as a nation. When do the concentration camps open? When do the political executions begin?
     
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    As soon as the right takes power.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's been under investigation for 5 years. Your logic wanes.

     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh bullshit. Few people are indicted for lying on a gun application form.

    https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/few-prosecutions-for-lying-on-atf-gun-purchase-form
    . The odds of being charged for lying on the form are virtually nonexistent.
    Oh FFS. Right wing hysterics on parade.

    A gun charge. A lying on a gun application charge. What was the lie? That he didn't mention his drug habit when applying for a gun permit. .

    Why didn't he mention it?

    he was on drugs.

    What Hunter needed is REHAB, not criminal prosecution.
     
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    And you think they have been actually investigating him that entire time instead of just avoiding charges until they realized Biden's popularity is waning and he might not win reelection?
     
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    Hahaha! It is obvious that someone has been
    "bribing with Biden".....
     
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    You have no evidence
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    David Weiss was appointed by Bill Barr/Trump, both republicans, as Special Prosecutor. He operates outside the chain of command.
     
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    Did you read your own link? It's near 50% and I bet it depends on the evidence. There is little reason to believe Biden didn't intentionally misrepresent his drug use.
     
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    Which is never, the right it toast.
     
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    There is little reason to believe you do your homework before you make sweeping allegations.


    At the US Attorney office, which is what is happening here, it's 12 out of 112,000

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    https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-18-440.pdf

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-12-prosecuted-editorials-debates/1288699002/

    The FBI, in reviewing instant background checks for firearm purchases, detected 112,000 lie-and-try crimes in fiscal 2017 alone, and federal investigators had names and addresses on the filled-out forms. How many were prosecuted? Twelve, according to a recent Government Accountability Office report.
     
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    Lol…well, the faux hysterical outrage has already begun while maga demands that we give trump a free pass for treason and sedition.
     
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    You obviously have never dealt with the ATF. You anti-gun attitudes have left you clueless about gun shop paperwork.
    You should write to the ATF and tell them to get all the folks out of jail that did what Hunter did and get them to rehab. Hurry...
     
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    Treason and sedition? How so? Neither of those charges are involved with what Trump is experiencing. All the charges are about having classified documents in his home in Florida... like Biden had in his home in Delaware.
     
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    Well, when Hunter runs for POTUS and wins, I'll get "bunched up". In the interim, anyone still hearing the Trump victim & Ultra Whine???!!! :)
     
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    It was nice of you to find better data but it was your earlier link that stated...

    "2019 fiscal year, when Hunter Biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on Form 4473 — and filed just 298 cases. The numbers were roughly similar for fiscal 2020."
     
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    He also lied on his 4473. that is lying to the FBI.
     
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    Who told you that? Statistics show hardly anyone goes to jail for lying about drug use in Form 4473.

    Should there be a drug screen for gun buyers? Maybe. Maybe there should be a mental eval too, but some are vehemently opposed to such approach.
     
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    The question lies in the factual question....."for what services was this money earned?" How were expense justified? Three years late is just time to hide those facts. Many are late but three years is excessive. We'' learn more when we determine why 20 LLC's were necessary. The House is doing the job of both the FBI, Dpt. of Justice and the IRS. These bureaucracies are way out of hand!
     
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    I'm surprised at the number of people on this forum who are defending Hunter. When I look at his record, then what he pleaded guilty of, I would never defend a person like that.
     
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