Libyan father kills own raped daughters in honor killing.

As we noted in a prior report on the risk of honor killings and rape in Libya, this is the population from which a tolerant, pluralistic civil society is supposed to spring forth now that it's no longer hindered by a lone autocratic weirdo. A democracy is only as good as the values that inform its participants, and therein lies peril for human rights in Libya in the near future.

The National Transitional Council's draft constitution enshrines Sharia as the source of legislation. Despite the law's brutal and specific punishments for other acts it defines as criminal, a parent who kills a child may face no penalty at all under Sharia.

It is all too likely that the NTC will kick the can down the road on women's rights to avoid specifics on the issue, saying it has more pressing matters to attend to, just as Egyptian women were told "their concerns were not urgent in the aftermath of the uprising." "Father slit throats of three daughters in 'honour killing' after they were raped by Gaddafi's troops," by Liz Hazelton for the Daily Mail, August 30:

A stable society is not possible where killing is acceptable to relieve "humiliation and shame."

The assailants know the girls' and women's lives are over after they have been raped. They are essentially killing them twice.

Common sense sometimes prevails over the brutal idiocy of punishing the victim, but the nature of future laws in Libya could make it more difficult to challenge the status quo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-slit-throats-girls-raped-Gaddafis-men.html

 

Your Islamophobic ravings have been dealt with in another thread. "Honour killings" are not an exclusively "muslim" thing.

—”Honour killing” is a form of patriarchal violence that does not respect cultural boundaries. According to Human Rights Watch, such violence “goes across cultures and across religions”. It is practised under various names—dowry killings, crimes of passion, etc—in Latin America, India, Italy, Sweden, Brazil and Great Britain.

http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilling.html

 

"Claims" the spokesdork for Human Rights Watch. No anecdotal evidence, none. Just a stupid one-liner unsupported claim.

Tell you what, Muslim-apologist, find us the hundreds of stories about Christians, Jews, and Buddhists murdering their daughters and wives for being raped.

Or better yet, peddle your obfuscation to children. Maybe they will believe it.

 

Ha, zulu. This again from you? Pfft....

 

/Coughs....Hmmmm...And you fail to counter the assertion with any sourced material of your own...Too funny. Your unsubstantiated crap and personal attacks is like water off a ducks back.

 

Ditto...As above.

 

Do East Asian or Latin American fathers murder daughters who have been raped?

 

There is no logical reason for positing that "honour killings" are an exclusively Islamic phenomenon for the reasons cited. Logically, by implying otherwise, is tantamount to suggesting muslims are uniquelly pathologically pre-disposed to committing atrocious acts. Clearly logical thought processess and reasoning are beyond your grasp.

 

Why not just answer the man's question, rather than play the bigot card? I can answer that. Because it's all you have.

Keep sucking the Muslim teet. Your belly is full of their sand fleas.

 

Have you got anything of substance to add, or do you insist on continuing with your childish jibes?...You are boring me.

 

Show us the links of Christians, Jews, and Buddhists, slaughtering their daughters who were raped, or became too "westernized".

Or **** and go apologize for the Islmaoscum somewhere else..

We'll be waiting on your evidence of equal opportunity honor killings.

 

Why don't you show us where Americans and the like kill their kids b/c they were raped.

I will wait as long as it takes. Do you condone honor killings or something?

 

Lol...I'm still waiting for you to add a post of substance rather than strawmen arguments. I guess I'm going to be here for a long time.

 

Not evidence.

Try again, genius.

We'll wait.

 

Oh, right, now its time for the false dichotomy "argument".

 

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!...Change the record.

 

You made the bullchit claim by way of the BS Human Right's Watch liar. So it shouldn't be hard to show us the stories of Christians, etc. killing their daughters.

Just back up YOUR CLAIM.

We'll wait.

 

Ok, so Human Rights Watch are wrong and you, a relative non-entity, who has failed to counter their argument with a source of your own, is right?...Lol. Take to the stage because you are too funny for this board.

 

You are asking me to prove a negative.

LMAO!

Look bro, you f'd up. Call it day and we'll forget this whole sordid tale ever happened.

Toodles.

 

No, I supported my position with recourse to a source. The onus is on you to counter it with an argument of your own supported by your own sourced material...That's how debating works. Maybe you should stick to the personal insults, slurs and strawmen?

 

I don't think the "they do it too" defense is doing Islam any favors, when the crime is slitting your own daughters' throats like so much livestock.

 

You have some rough edges on you don't you son?

East Asians and Latin Americans have patriarchal cultures, and they are not exempt from domestic abuse. However, there is no tradition in any East Asian or Latin American culture of fathers killing their daughters because the daughters have been raped.

 

The issue at hand involves my questioning the bigots' implied contention that honour killings are somehow exclusively a muslim phenomenon. I proved that this was baloney. Thus:

—”Honour killing” is a form of patriarchal violence that does not respect cultural boundaries. According to Human Rights Watch, such violence “goes across cultures and across religions”. It is practised under various names—dowry killings, crimes of passion, etc—in Latin America, India, Italy, Sweden, Brazil and Great Britain."

http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk...orkilling.html

Killing as a result of rape, therefore, constitutes honour killing of which patriarchal violence is a component factor that cuts across cultures and religions which, according to the above source, includes Latin America. Do you understand that?

Your contention - namely that "there there is no tradition in any East Asian or Latin American culture of fathers killing their daughters because the daughters have been raped" is therefore, a strawman position.

Do you grasp that logic?

What you are attempting to do, is shift the goalposts of the debate.

 

Do you condone honor killing? It's a simple question.

 

Of course he does, whether he admits it or not. He invents excuses to cover his desire to be a/better muslim.

The fact is sharia does promote and allow this punishment whlst other societies where this might occur generally consider it a crime and are trying to stop it. It is evil and disgusting, and if its a representation of 'true' islam then so is islam - no matter how watered down some people like to pretend it can be.