Life or Death

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by BFOJ, Nov 19, 2011.

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How say you on these choices?

  1. For Death Penalty; For Abortion

    15.2%
  2. For Death Penalty; Against Abortion

    30.3%
  3. Against Death Penalty; For Abortion

    30.3%
  4. Against Death Penalty; Against Abortion

    24.2%
  5. I couldn't care less

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Just give me my drugs, I can't think right now

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  1. BFOJ

    BFOJ New Member Past Donor

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    What is your stand on these issues?
     
  2. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    everyone should have the chance to screw up their own life. god help you if you do it so well that 12 of your peers declare you unfit to live.
     
  3. stretch351c

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    the death penalty is administrated to those convicted of heinous crimes against the population. Abortion is the taking of the most innocent life there is, one that has never had a chance. i'm not opposed to abortion when it concerns rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. Considering the multitude of contraceptive methods on the market today, and the number of families willing to adopt babies. i see no reason for abortion except in those cases cited above. And the best way to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is to keep your pants on.
     
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    dreadpiratejaymo New Member

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    These 2 things are unrelated.
     
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    Didn't see my option: Pro Death Penalty, Pro abortion under certain circumstances.
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Either way you are killing someone. How can anyone be okay with killing one person, but not okay with killing someone else?
    I understand that my stance is exactly like it but I am asking that of the pro death penalty people.
     
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    For me it's that I have no compassion for those who commit the worst of the worst crimes, and I see no reason to spend $30k a year for the duration of their lives to keep them incarcerated.

    I support abortion in the case of rape, incest, potentially fatal complications for the mother, and incurable disease in the fetus.
     
  8. BFOJ

    BFOJ New Member Past Donor

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    Well, actually there's more to it than 12 people. There's things like eyewitness testimony, evidence, DNA, circumstances that are overwhelming, hey even the guilty who plead guilty. But don't let this get in the way of a heinious murdered getting a slap on the wrist. No, they need a real strap on their wrist (and elsewhere) so they can meet their Maker.

    You know, there is such a thing as accepting one's responsibility and facing the consequences. Do you give any thought to the destruction and mess that these ruthless criminals left with their victims, the victim's family and friends, the criminal's own family?

    Besides, I do believe many come to terms with their crimes, even more so accept Jesus as their Savior and rather than spend the rest of their lives in confinement they shall be in Heaven. This is my hope.
     
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    BFOJ New Member Past Donor

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    They are except in one important aspect. Death.
     
  10. BFOJ

    BFOJ New Member Past Donor

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    You voted ok to abort. So an unborn human in the making does not deserve to live if some human that has already been birthed decides that this life is not a life?
     
  11. MegadethFan

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    Well I support abortion and some forms of infanticide because a fetus and early child have no interests - not even in their own survival. They have such limited mental capacity they dont even know they exist. In the case of the death penalty, I put 'oppose' only because I think it should be the very very very last resort, so it could only be used in a case where someone was incapable of restraint or incarceration - ie there was no way of stopping them from committing a terrible crime or dangerously assaulting others. This incidentally is my philosophy on war as well. The death penalty should be like that ancient bottle of wine you are saving for some incredibly important event in your life.
     
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    dreadpiratejaymo New Member

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    Ok, but everything is related in that manner of thinking.

    These are both related to me scratching my arm, as that results in the death of thousands of cells...
     
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    but that would be thousands of your own cells.
     
  14. mikezila

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    god have mercy on your soul if you should ever be in a coma and the plug gets pulled the day before you were going to come out of it.
     
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    the condemned prisoner decided his/her fate when they committed their crime.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    And you say this... why?
     
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    Against the death penalty; against abortion but believe it should be left up to the states.
     
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    Allegedly committed the crime...
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    What makes you God to say, "I'll take your life from you"?
     
  20. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    there's no "allegedly" about someone convicted of a crime. the proof of them having done it beyond a reasonable doubt has been confirmed by a jury of their peers.
     
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    That's total bull(*)(*)(*)(*). The executioner does the executing - not the executed.
     
  22. mikezila

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    because your life would be ended while you have no self-interest in your own survival and no self awareness at a point where you're about to regain it.
     
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    no one gets a surprise death penalty conviction. they knew the risk when they commited their crime.
     
  24. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Right, because no innocent people ever get convicted of a crime.
     
  25. MegadethFan

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    Potentially yes. In and of itself killing me at that point would be fine, however the fact I have a preexisting interest changes things. The only other consideration that could overriding my being kept alive would really be resource management - ie you need the energy or whatever to save someone else.
     

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