List the BAD things about Jesus

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  1. MegadethFan

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    There was nobody named "Jesus".

    What dimbulb thinks there was?


    What is consistent is that..
    Ive said many times including quite near to this post, that Im sure there was some individual
    about whom all these fictitious stories are told, and that he'd not recognize himself if he heard the name or the deeds.

    If you want to consistently claim that I really said that the entire story plus the person its based on is fictitious, go ahead, its just more false witnessing to add to your life total.

    I dont want to hear any more stuff you make up, go bother someone else with your nonsense.
     
  3. MegadethFan

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    Lol apparently I wrote everything
     
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    How quickly they turn!
     
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    something to agree on! amazing. now, if we can agree that you are being too lazy to find out for yourself (fewer key strokes than asking me to do it for you, to find sources)
    that "Nazareth" didnt exist at the time of Jesus, we are done here.

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    what is that supposed to mean?

    You want to bet i cant produce sources for what I said about Nazareth?
    If I can, then you dont post for two weeks, ok?

    Can you handle a challenge?
     
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    Have you ever been to the Holy Land?

    There were many tiny villages in the West Bank and in the Galilee 60 years ago.
     
  7. MegadethFan

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    . Ok let's apply your logic.

    Jesus was clearly God, all the evidence indicates he was. Don't believe me? Just go look at the evidence yourself - there's so much it's impossible to disagree. Lol
     
  8. taikoo

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    So what? There was no town of Nazareth at the time of Jesus.
     
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    He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about
     
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    It's actually been shown Jesus could shape shift.
     
  11. Margot2

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    I know........

    There is a lot of reason to believe in the historical Jesus even if he didn't walk on water.
     
  12. thebrucebeat

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    No bet necessary.
    I look forward to learning something new.
    Just don't set a precedent that you would quickly use against your rivals.
    Why are you so riled up? We are typically allies.
     
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    Billions DO disagree, I among them.
    Seems quite possible.
     
  14. MegadethFan

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    Wrong.
     
  15. thebrucebeat

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    The word Jesus used in the New Testament comes from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישוע), also used as Joshua or Yesua.[1][2] The name is thus related to the Hebrew consonantal verb root verb y-š-ʕ (to rescue or deliver) and the Hebrew noun yešuaʕ (deliverance).[4] There have been a number of proposals as to the origin and etymological origin of the name Jesus (cf. Matthew 1:21). The name is related to the Hebrew form [Yehoshua`] יְהוֹשֻׁעַ Joshua, which is a theophoric name first mentioned within the Biblical tradition in Exodus 17:9. This name is usually considered to be a compound of two parts: יהו Yeho, a theophoric reference to YHWH, the name of the God of Israel, plus Hosea a form derived from the Hebrew triconsonantal root y-š-ʕ or י-ש-ע Numbers 13:16 "to liberate, save". There have been various proposals as to how the literal etymological meaning of the name should be translated, including: YHWH saves, (is) salvation, (is) a saving-cry, (is) a cry-for-saving, (is) a cry-for-help, (is) my help.[5][6][7][8][9]
    Wiki

    Is the issue that the translation "Jesus" creates a name that didn't exist?
    That's true, but the word "and" didn't either, but they had their version of it.
     
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    Leaving aside the problems with the argument from silence, it should also be noted that the claim is not entirely correct. In AD 70, at the end of the Jewish war with the Romans, the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, and this meant that Jewish priests and their families had to be redeployed. An inscription was discovered in 1962 in Caesarea Maritima, which documented that the priests of the order of Elkalir came to live in Nazareth. This has only been confirmed by later discoveries. For example, in 2009, the first Nazarene home to date from Jesus’ era was excavated by archaeologists. The house was a simple structure, consisting of two small rooms and a courtyard.

    The claim about the errant geography carries a bit more weight than the argument from silence. The closest cliff from which Jesus might have been thrown is roughly 2.5 miles away from the synagogue, however, and there is no reason why Jesus could not have been taken this far.

    In conclusion, the claim that there is no historical evidence for the existence of the town of Nazareth in the first century stands refuted by the archaeological data, and many of the more informed atheist critics, even among those who deny the historicity of Jesus, have advised caution with this argument.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Nazareth-exist.html#ixzz2glmRnEww
     
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    a bible site. good source for biology too, you can learn how evolution is all a fraud.
     
  18. taikoo

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    Kind of a roundabout way of saying there was nobody named "Jesus".

    You went to no effort at all to admit you made it up about what I am "consistent" about doing.
    Any reason?
     
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    The archeology is strictly secular.
    Shall I post the findings from a site you will enjoy?

    Excavations conducted prior to 1931 in the Franciscan venerated area revealed no trace of a Greek or Roman settlement there,[81] Fr. Bagatti, who acted as the principal archaeologist for the venerated sites in Nazareth, unearthed quantities of later Roman and Byzantine artifacts,[82] attesting to unambiguous human presence there from the 2nd century AD onward. John Dominic Crossan, a noted New Testament scholar, remarked that Bagatti's archaeological drawings indicate just how small the village actually was, suggesting that it was little more than an insignificant hamlet.[83]
    In the mid-1990s, a shopkeeper discovered tunnels under his shop near Mary's Well in Nazareth. The tunnels were identified as the hypocaust of a bathhouse. Excavations in 1997-98 revealed remains dating from the Roman, Crusader, Mamluk and Ottoman periods.[84][85][86][87]. Wiki

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    That's what you got from that citation and post?
    Come on, Taikoo. You are smarter and more honest than that.
     
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    Taikoo mate you haven't got a leg to stand on.
     
  21. taikoo

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    I would like to see something from an actual archaeologist, non affiliated with any
    church organization, who says there was a Sodom, Gomorrah, or Nazareth.
     
  22. taikoo

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    Im too smart to let you get away with making up something that you say is
    "consistent" about me.

    If someone had called out the name Jesus, he'd not have responded.

    This doesnt seem very deep or worth a lot of time, its just another example of the G Washington hatchet nature or the story vs the original man.
     
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    Let's stick to the topic at hand, Nazareth.
    Did you see the Wiki citation?
     
  24. taikoo

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    Let me look. Nope, there are two of them, with size 7 feet attached. :D
     
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    Because our translation was not spoken then?
    I don't follow your argument.
     

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