List the BAD things about Jesus

That pretty much rules it out as any sort of authority then.

Theer is no evidence that Nazereth existed before 100AD

 

He had a foot fetish. It's true !
http://biblesuite.com/a/anoint.htm

 

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

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Did you mean that?

 

I suppose we all say wiki is good when it says what we like, and bad when it doesnt.

here is what R-wiki says:

Another example is the issue of Jesus' birth. For reasons of biblical prophecy, the Messiah was expected to come from Bethlehem. However, our earliest gospel, Mark, has Jesus coming from Nazareth (though see below). Later gospels (Matthew and Luke) disagree with this and have him born in Bethlehem—albeit via other, contradictory stories. Nevertheless, the application of the above principle, it is claimed, makes it more likely that Jesus hailed from Nazareth—and taking the point one step further, the mere presence of a story against the interest of the author implies very strongly that Jesus actually existed. (It has been suggested that the geographical and cultural errors in Mark mean that this line of argument has other problems, though, as the Christian religion was still being invented at the time the gospels were being written, we should reasonably expect such incongruities and inconsistencies.)

Archaeological evidence exists for many of the towns and cities in the New Testament, leading to acceptance of their existence, including: Bethlehem, Capernaum, Chorazin, Ephesus, Gaza, Jaffa, Nineveh and of course Jerusalem. Critically, however, one city associated directly with Jesus, Nazareth, is a puzzle for scholars.

[edit]Nazareth
Nazareth is not mentioned by name in any pre-Christian Palestinian, Greek or Roman text. Nazareth is first noted at the beginning of the 4th century. There are towns with similar names, when you transliterate them, and there are known linguistic shifts in the region that could account for a misplaced name, but this is not evidence that any of these similar named towns are the Biblical Nazareth or that such a town even existed. There is a growing trend of scholars who doubt that the New Testament town referred to by the Greek name Nazara is the historical town of Nazareth in lower Palestine, since both its location and its description do not match what is in Luke.

After December 21, 2009 there were reports regarding evidence for some level of settlement in the area for the time of Jesus[125] but the actual Israel Antiquities Authority report does not mention first-century remains but rather Roman Period remains, "(w)hat I find most notable is that to date the excavators have yet to report even one shred of evidence that places this structure in the first century CE as opposed to the second century" "the ceramic finds are so sparse and disjointed that it is still too early to rule out stratigraphic intrusion. So, judging from the finds themselves, the “Jesus era” is apparently first-second century CE or perhaps even later"..."Neither the archeologist (Y. Alexandre) nor anyone else has published any verification of material findings or claims."..."The alleged presence of a “small camouflaged grotto” could point to a hiding place at the time of the Second Jewish Revolt (132-135 CE), consistent with other material from Nazareth, not to the time of the First Revolt (c. 70 CE)." The scholarly paper that would refute these challenges has not appeared, the site has been destroyed so no new research can be done, and there appears to have been tourist motives to spin whatever was found into "evidence" for Jesus so we have what amounts a Bermuda Triangle-like tabloid quality story.[126]

It is also possible that little if any archaeological evidence of pre-existing artifacts for the simple reason that many cities get built on ancient sites. But this too should be taken with caution. Given the amount of archaeological work in Palestine, if no evidence has been found, there is valid reason to be skeptical that such a town existed.

It is possible that Nazareth might have existed as an insignificant and easily missed village, and thus no one recorded it. The gospels state that it had only one synagogue, so it would not be a large city. But, even a large village would likely have been listed somewhere—especially if the Lord and Savior of a people were from this town.

Ultimately, all of these "possibles" are not as probable as the idea that Nazareth may have been invented for the Story of Jesus.[127]

Other ideas are that Nazarene was not a reference to a place but to a title such as Nazirite (meaning "one consecrated, devoted"[128]) or that it referred to a clan Jesus belonged to (some translations of Micah 5:2 make it clear that "Bethlehem" is reference to a group of people in Judea not a town so why can't Nazarene be the same sort of thing?)

 

Jewish sources? The Jews thought the Messiah would be an anointed king like David who would drive out their enemies.

 

Foot fetish ? Of course I did. How many feet have you rubbed oil on ? I've cum across a few other things getting rubbed on feet but oil ? Perfectly good olive oil.
Is there a new RubzOilOnDemzFeetz Depot opening near you ?

 

Try this: call out a name that has never been heard (because it wont exist until a language that includes it has developed) and see if anyone answers.

When the person you meant doesnt answer, you can say you just cant see why he didnt answer, when its what everyone will call him after he dies.

 

Have you EVER lived in the ME or are you just shooting off your mouth?

 

But when he tried to chase them his feetz were too slippery and he busted his ascz--- so they nailed him to a stick !

 

Are you a teen?

 

Ummm. Why ? Do they really rub oil on each others feet like in Duh Babble ?
If so. I'm sorry and I'll remember not to shake hands with ANY mid Easterner from now on. Before it was only Mooselimes since they wipe bare handed.

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I was about 43 years back. Are you uh murkin ?

 

Most Arab bathrooms have a spray wash next to the hammam..

And they wash their feet, privates and hands several times a day..

You sound like a typical ignoramus.

Have you ever been out of the US?

 

I personally am a Wiki fan as I have read studies that its accuracy rivals Brittanica.
Be that as it may, I find your article interesting, but inconclusive. I can roll with either belief, but it isn't strong enough either way for it to be used by either side of the debate.
Don't you agree?

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In Translation!
What is ambiguous about what I'm saying?
If I yelled out "donkey" back then, would they have understood it? Would they have had a word that meant donkey that they would have understood?

 

What cute little feet!
Can I rub oil on them?

 

Nazareth & Surroundings

PLACES TO VISIT:

Nazareth
Mount Tabor
The Gospel Trail








Nazareth

Nazareth is the largest Arab city in Israel, with a population of 60,000, once split nearly evenly between Christians and Muslims, but now nearly two-thirds Muslim. The two groups have lived harmoniously, though a dispute erupted in 1999 over the desire of Muslims to build a mosque near a church.

Nazareth was apparently never an important site in Jewish history; it is not mentioned in the Old Testament or rabbinic literature, though Jews certainly lived there in Jesus' time. The first reference is in the New Testament (John 1:45) and, even there, the town is referred to in a negative way ("Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth?" 1:46)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Nazareth.html

Nazareth, which began as a small Jewish village about 2,000 years ago, became a stronghold of Christianity in the Byzantine period, just a few hundred years later
http://www.goisrael.com/Tourism_Eng/Tourist Information/Discover Israel/Cities/Pages/Nazareth.aspx

Nazareth had a Jewish population in Jesus’ time; its Christian holy places are first mentioned after Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire (313 ce). The only site in Nazareth that can be definitely identified as dating back to New Testament times is the town well, now called St. Mary’s Well; others are in dispute between the various churches.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/407165/Nazareth

Any good?

 

In the Bible "foot" and "feet" are used to refer to genitalia.

 

LOLOL

Want to document that claim?

 

Scroll down to Table 3 = http://www.adath-shalom.ca/body_metaphors_bib_hebrew.htm

 

Gad.. You didn't actually READ table 3, did you?

 

Open a map please , the distances in eastern Med are just ridiculously small , with a single sail boat and medium winds it is 3 days from Athens to Crete and maybe 4 more to Alexandria ... yay a week! Ashdod and Ascalon are right next to Egypt , 3 days at maximum .

 

I understand all about the distances in the Middle East. I also understand the pace of life that existed then.

The reasonable road to Ashdod led to the west and slightly north towards Joppa, where it joined the Via Maris. The traveller would then turn south on the Via Maris for approx 5+ miles to Ashdod. Ashdod was 5 miles inland, not on the coast, as it is today. It did maintain a port area 5 miles away on the coast however. The other way to Ashdod was to travel the roads between villages, a longer and rougher route.
While Ashdod had a port area it was not a major port like Tyre, Sidon, even Gaza. When Herod built Caesarea IT became the leading port taking trade from smaller ports. Most trading ships preferred to keep close to the coast and a port in case of sudden bad weather. See Pauls journey to Rome.
Again. There were no regular scheduled liners. You took your chance on there being a ship going where you wanted to go.

I forgot. Ascalon. Journey same as Ashdod only further south. And it was a port.

Of course you could take a short cut through the hills, but risked being robbed.

 

Meaning


Some Metaphorical Meanings in the Hebrew Bible


Some Examples


King James Version 1611


Revised Standard Version 1952


Comments

1 Foot רגל=

Variant – only plural attested

מרגלות




Foot רגל=

is sometimes a euphemism for genitals



To cover the feet is the usual euphemism for urinating




Ex. 4:25[4]




Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off her son’s foreskin, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.


Then Zippo'rah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched Moses' feet with it, and said, "Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me!"


NAB feet

Ju. 3:24


Surely he covereth his feet


He is only relieving himself




1 Sam.:24:4

English 24.3

Lit. Saul went in to cover his feet


Saul went in to cover his feet


Saul went in to relieve himself.




Is. 6:2 “feet” in this passage may refers genitals


with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet


with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet


NAB feet

Is 7:20 hair of feet is euphemism For pubic hair


hair of the feet[5]


the hair of the feet


NAB Hair between the legs

Ru. 3:7

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Zipporah defiled her husband her husband by touching his feet with the foreskin.

Jud. 3:24 The Hebrew interpretation was that he was asleep - in his summer chamber.

1Samuel 24. The Hebrew interpretation is that he was asleep. Or how did David cut off the hem of Sauls robe without him seeing him.

Isaiah 6:2. As the angels are spirits why would they have genitals. Certainly no sex organs as there is no 'giving of taking in marriage'.

Ruth. She uncovered his feet. It was the acceptable way of indicating that he should marry her. She had no children and it was up to the next of kin to marry the widow and produce a son. She believed him to be the next of kin. As it turned out there was one other, but when approached refused to marry her, so Boaz did.