List the reasons we should bring muslim "refugees" to the US

Nope. All or nothing

 

Fine, round them all up at once. No big deal. This country would be 1000000000000000 times better without all the groups we mentioned.

More jobs available and less government moochers sucking this country dry. It would be a wonderful day.

 

Welcome to Asia America.

 

How would it be Asia America if we still have white, black and Hispanics lol?

 

If we only allow Asian immigration how would it not be eventually? Only the best for the US

 

You are irrelevant then.

 

Something we have in common. Lol

 

Probably not at all other than the financial strain.

Are we only letting in children?

You're cherry picking a subset of who we're letting in to try to make your point.

 

Mostly women and children escaping war. Very very few men....maybe a few old ones. Check it out.

 

Never said not to allow immigration of other people, just not illegal immigration or refugees from territories that will not mesh well with the freedoms of the USA.

I am proposing to get rid of our problem, not purge everyone lol. Asians are cool though.

 

The primary reason behind the incredibly slow, sometimes reversed, progression to fulfilling the ideology upon which America was founded is because of "white people that believe white people are best." There is an actual term for this and it's called White Supremacy and it has prevented us from even coming close to the ideology upon which the United States was founded as expressed in these two lines from the Declaration of Independence (annotated with today's understanding).

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men (people) are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator (nature) with certain unalienable (natural) Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men (people), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

It is this ideology that makes the United States an exceptional country and not the Americans that have or are living in America that makes it exceptional. This ideology is even superior to those that wrote it because it's perfect while it's authors were not.

From the founding of this nation and this ideology being established to the present moment and into the future it is the disregard for this ideology by White (WASP) Male Supremacists/White (WASP) Male Nationalists with their uninterrupted historical control our social, economic, and political institutions and their constant fight against this ideology to retain control of our social, economic, and political institutions that prevents people of the United States from ever achieving this ideological goal in the United States.

Based upon it's definition alone we also know the political ideology that has always supported the traditional White (WASP) Male Supremacy in our social, economic, and political institutions.

White (WASP) Male Supremacy that inherently violates the Natural Rights of the Person immigrated with the British colonialists and was based upon the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings (e.g. British Monarchy) The American Revolution attempted to overturn and replace the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings with the Natural Rights of the Person as the foundation not just for government but for society as well.

It was the "conservatives" that fought to retain "male supremacy" based upon Protestant Christian teaching that the woman was "subservient" to the man and they remained treated as property without their Natural Rights being recognized.

It was the "conservatives" that fought against Freedom of Religion that would diminish the power of the White (Anglo-Saxon) Protestants in the United States..

It was the "conservatives' that fought to retain the "White Supremacy" of the British dominion by force of arms over all other people denying them equality.

It was the "conservatives" that fought to retain "ownership of property by Title" including the ownership of people by title that originated under the doctrine of the Divine Right of Kings that violated the Natural Right of Property of the Person.

Many of these battles and more continue to rage today between the "conservatives" and the "liberals" as the White (WASP) Male Supremacists fight against the American ideology because it would diminish their social, economic, and political power that enables them to violate the Natural Rights of all Non-WASP's and all women not just in the United States but around the world.

Those in this thread that disparage the Muslim refugees, that accuse the victims of tyranny of being terrorists, that would deny them the Right of Liberty to escape that tyranny by immigrating to the United States, reflect the identical "conservative" White Male Supremacy traits that constantly fights against the American ideology preventing us from ever becoming the.same exceptional nation in reality that that our American ideology establishes that we could be.

Ironically it's our failure to be in reality what our ideology establishes that results in us being the victims of terrorism that the "conservative White (WASP) Male Supremacists fear so much.

 

Well good on white people then! The "ideology" you style "American" is a recipe for mediocrity.

White people invented American "ideology" and we know what it really means.

 

Interesting of you to ignore everything I wrote.

Jefferson didn't consider blacks and whites equal, and wanted blacks sent to Africa to avoid admixture.

http://www.npiamerica.org/research/category/what-the-founders-really-thought-about-race

Where did you get the claim that it would take 450 years for blacks to achieve equality with whites,and why are you passing that off as fact?

What evidence do you have that northeast Asians, whites and west African blacks are equal in cognitive ability ?

 

The Tsarnaev family came to this country as refugees in 2002.

 

That's not the craziest idea I've heard. That makes more sense than the current system. Tell me more about this idea.

 

So far in this country, that's mostly true....so far. However, it was 1 man who killed 50 in orlando. It doesn't take a whole lot.

And as far as total syrian refugees (not just to the US), there are a LOT more men than women and children.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/heres-one-fact-dismantles-syrian-refugee-myth/

And if all these refugees are such nice people, how the hell do you explain what's happening in germany?

They're a danger, it's been proven.

 

Bigotry never gets old, LOL.

 

No one is saying refugees must be accepted indiscriminately, they need to be screened, as has been done for decades. There are massive refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon so I don't know what you are referring to with this. Why are Syrian refugees "treated differently" - I'm not sure if you are aware but the Syrian refugee crisis is the worst since WW II. It is monstrous.........BTW, there won't be a stable government in Syria for quite some time yet.....do you think everyone should just perish?

Why doesn't it make a "lick of sense to bring them here?"......

 

Islam is a disease.....oh boy, we do have a ways to go, don't we.......

 

Questionable at best.......link below.

http://www.snopes.com/tsarnaev-refugees/

 

First, show me how the UN is rounding up the refugees not in camps for processing. According to Wikipedia there are about 217,000 Syrians in 22 camps, but there are about 2.7 million Syrian refugees living in Turkey alone. That does not even count those that have fled to Europe. Why are they being rounded up? Also, as I said that is about 217,000 in 22 camps, But the UN wants to relocate 400,000. So, obviously they aren't concerned about vetting all the refugees. Asylum should be granted to those that supported the losing party. But we can not know who that will be yet. If Assad were to reach an agreement that were to end the war with him still in power, then those that supported the insurgency should be granted vetted for Asylum. If the Insurgency were to win, and Assad were to be forced to advocate, then his government supporters should be vetted. To relocate refugees now is a complete waste of time. We can not know if they have grounds for seeking asylum.

 

We are not talking about Germany. We are talking about this country. Women, children and old men

 

So you don't believe political asylum is considered refugee status?

 

Yes, liberals hate Christianity and traditional Western culture because they're a threat to establishing an authoritarian state.

 

So Germany is choosing the bad ones and we're choosing the good ones?

Is that really your argument?

And stop acting no males between 18 and 50 are entering this country....they are and they will continue to do so.