List the reasons we should bring muslim "refugees" to the US

The two primary Jihads (struggles of the person) in the Muslim religion are: 1) Self-improvement, and 2) Improvement of society and Osama bin Laden, a very well educated man, understood that the ideology that the United States was based upon (albeit never lived up to) provided for a society of equality and equal justice for all.

 

You want americans to die.

See I can play this dumb ass game too. Care to respond to things I actually say or have you given up on doing that?

 

The ideology of the United States was never based upon "citizenship" but instead was based upon the natural rights of all people. It is a lack of understanding this fact that really separates the person that believes in America because they understand the American ideology and those that don't because they don't understand that ideology

For example denying the "right to vote" for permanent resident non-citizens violated the ideology of the United State that requires the consent of the "governed" which are all people subjected to the authority of government continuously in their daily lives. That's why Article 1 and the 17th Amendment both establish that members of the US Congress are to be elected by the "people" and not the just "citizens" of the United States. The People are counted by the US census every ten years and includes both citizen and non-citizen permanent residents of the United States.

 

How will allowing refugee children here hurt americans?

 

Change children to unborn child and you have an argument progressives have used for abortion reducing crime rate.

Why should Westerners involve themselves in intra-Muslim conflicts?

 

What does liberty have to do with immigration policy?

The BF quote is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Even if it were relevant, it doesn't make it accurate.

We sacrifice liberties for safety on a daily basis.

What evidence do you have that Muslims from Islamic fundamentalist hot spots are less likely to hold extremist views or engage in terrorism?

Could you please provide the quote from OBL?

 

Well since there is no such thing as unborn children your post makes little sense

 

You're just uneducated.

https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/07/is-it-wrong-to-say-unborn-child

But I shouldn't be surprised from someone who doesn't know the difference between accuracy and precision.

 

The founding fathers didn't believe in rights for all people.

Even the fathers opposed to slavery wanted Africans sent back to Africa.

Why do you fabricate claims?

 

Target practice?

 

The fact that the U.S. economy cannot provide enough jobs for its own citizens is a very good reason to deny immigration. It makes no sense whatsoever, to allow immigrants to move here when there is limited opportunity to be able to support themselves without government support.

 

every child has rights. Does a fetus get all the rights of every other child. This is a sidetrack but it should be obvious they do not and are therefore not a child

 

Unfortunately, there really aren't any if you're an emotionless robot devoid of compassion or morality. They're just human lives, drops in the bucket considering the billions of people who exist on this planet. Just goes to show the purely subjective basis for morality in the first place, contrary to those who would like to pretend that there is some kind of natural absolute morality. Runs contrary to the folks who, in other issues, like to pretend that life is sacred and all life has value.

Just less value if you're not from "here" or if you look the same as a tiny amount of people who've done bad things.

It's always rather affirming to me to see the pro-life anti-abortion bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ters not extend their "life is sacred" arguments outside of the abortion debate. It only confirms what I already knew. The term "pro-life" ought to come with a * and a note that says "Many conditions and restrictions will apply". In that debate they'll refuse to accept the obvious, which is that morality is subjective and relative, but they'll sure lecture you something awful about it.

At least someone who doesn't wax poetic about the sanctity of life in other issues and doesn't want the refugees to come here has some logical and moral consistency to them. Many others do not.

 

Without immigration lettuce would cost ten dollars a head

 

That's a fascinating diversion that no way discounts what I actually wrote, the underlying point you are either too challenged or dishonest to address, or the second point I raised in my initial post relating to the line of discussion about intra-Muslim violence.

 

Our taxes and crime rate would be lower without illegal and legal Hispanic and non-white and non-Asian immigrants pouring into this country being a net deficit to society.

Expensive lettuce vs. black and Hispanic ghettos and gang culture.

Decisions, decisions...

 

Kkk = 10 democrats with a fax machine.
Islam = a billion democrats that chant "death to America, death to the Jews lalalala"

The DNC is the polblisity arm of the kkk. Even if not all Islams chant death to everyone, enough of them do and it's a big problem. Islam needs to fix itself before it can come play in the civilized world play ground. Till then, they need to keep their Jihad in their sand box.

 

Expensive EVERYTHING. There is zero evidence for illegals having a higher crime rate than citizens.

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Islam is a billion democrats??? Now that is hilarious

 

This is evidence that Hispanic immigrants and Hispanics born in the US have persistently higher crime rates than white Americans.

I guess those illegal immigrants who broke the law just to get here decided they wouldn't have similar crime rates of other Hispanics in the US.

 

Born here? We call those people citizens

 

IMHO, it has less to do with the religion then the fact that we have changed the way we do business. In none of the situations have we indiscriminately allowed refugees to come to this country. Take the Haitian crisis for instant. The residents of Haiti were leaving in rickety rafts. They were trying to brave the high seas in order to come to the US. This was during the Clinton Administration, by the way. The US Coast Guard would intercept them before they got to the US, and took them to refugee camps. I know this because I was at the camp at Gitmo, and I help build another camp on Grand Turk Island. They were medically evaluated, clothed, and provided basic necessities. They were held in the camps until the government was stabilized, and then returned to Haiti. Out of the more then 40,000 intercepted by the Coast Guard, only a few hundred made it to the US. In Africa, when war breaks out, the UN opens refugee camps. So, why is Syrian refugees being treated differently? Why hasn't the UN built refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon or Turkey? Hold the refugees there until their government stabilizes, and then allow them to return home. Why are we permanently relocating them? It does not make a lick of sense to bring them here.

 

Refugee children grow up to be terrorists.

 

Claim without evidence

 

And I called Hispanics born here immigrants?

 

You sado Hispanics born here have higher crime rates. Why would you say that