Literal six days, literal flood, is it true?

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People lived to be 900 years according to the Bible and you can learn a lot in 900 years so they probably knew from experience. The best I got is this link.

http://www.gotquestions.org/animals-clean-unclean.html

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Not does it automatically discount them in it of itself.

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The average size of a dinosaur was the size of a sheep. Plus if Noah took babies or juveniles (which is common sense in many aspects) the size isn't the issue.

 

Probably. Again. Making stuff up, again.
It does discount anything if there isn't something to correlate.
LOL, either you're fabricating or those sheep were huge. Plus, if, all speculation. Not 1 fact. Just stories and trying to make the shoe fit.

 

I would love to know what's wrong with him.

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LOLOL.. they used a different numbering system... based on 60 instead of 100..

 

Did you get my PM? I explained it in that.

 

The story was about modern man, the 22nd species as described in the genealogy in Genesis 4 and 5.
His mind was the "ark."
He carried the names of all the animals into the new world were only he and the first 3 racial stocks lived after extinction came to all other humanoids.

This makes sense of the whole story and describes basically what we know,today, understand and can talk about.
In all previous centuries, men living 950 millennium would never have made any sense.
Extinction, as a natural process of Reality, would never have been understood.

 

Yes.... there are no limitations on Messiah Yeshua -Jesus in His resurrected form......
one gifted Christian was shown that He could resurrect all the dead who ever lived and not even work up a sweat.....

 

I just don't believe the Noah story brings illumination of any kind. My bet is that it is an allegory. Allegories are based on society, and we've simply lost that context over the thousands of years since that society existed. It's no fault of the Bible - we just lost the context. It could have been interesting!

The real question to me is that the story claims God changed his mind on wiping out humans. How would an omniscient, immutable god be so shocked by finding Noah that he changed his mind? That seems like a tough question, even in an allegory.

The ark size, evolution, who handled the 40 years of food and dung, the questions of water (a common trop for purification, included in Baptism, etc.) the physical factors of the flood, etc. - these just indicate that it's an allegory. So does your description. There's nothing wrong with allegory - it's a key way that humans recorded important principles.

 

Woops! 40 days, not years!

 

The problem with translating between Hebrew and English is that the Hebrew language is small so they had multiple meanings for the same words .

yom which in genesis is translated by many bibles to mean day as in the 6 days of creation couks mean a half a 24 hour day , a full 24 hour day or an indefinite time period . That’s why reading the Bible in English just won’t give you the full context of the culture of those times

 

Easy. Fossil evidence high up on Mt. Ararat and other mountains of marine life. They didn't have the same concepts of time and biology we have today, so the stories can be both allegorical and factual, nor do they have to be 'stolen' from anybody else. Flood stories abounded all over, including among the Mayans. Even the Himalayas have marine fossils found way up on them.

Asserting ancient people have to satisfy modern science explanations in order to be 'factual' is just silly pseudo-intellectual dumbassery from poorly educated pagans and reactionary sociopaths.

 

True, but then it is written at several levels, and the main messages are clear enough on lower levels even if there are higher meanings for the more educated and sophisticated levels of understanding. There is plenty that can be understood at its most basic meanings. The multiple levels are just icing on the cake and make the bible a great work of literature and philosophy.

 

No, the size is very definitely an issue. Besides the size issue, the care and feeding of all the species that were present at the time of Noah would clearly be impossible. That much water can not be explained. Etc.

BUT, the real issues go beyond the natural impossibilities of the ark, the water, the life forms, etc.

- God didn't know about Noah!!!

- God changed his mind!!!

There is no explanation for these, given the claimed powers of God.

One has to conclude that the Noah story is an allegory, allowing for extracting meaning without judging it as reality.

 

I have to ask, which verses of the Bible say or imply God is omnipotent?

 

I think it's a reasonable assumption if one believes God created the universe.

Genesis states that the totality of all energy (including mass) was his play thing.

 

Mt. Everest and others in the region are increasing in height TODAY and have done so for huge numbers of years.

The more general point here is that forces of nature change the elevations of land by significant amounts.

Plus, the overall sea level has changed by large amounts, too.

Also, the edges of oceans are the more popular places for people to live. Thus the various events of the seas (tsunamis, cyclones, etc.) are sources of flood accounts as are cases of lakes breaking through their barriers - such as the repeated catastrophic flooding of WA and OR by water released from Lake Missoula, about 70 miles NW of Missoula, MT.

You can't just find a sea type specimen or read an ancient story and decide that corroborates a world flood.