MAGA Republicans simply cannot govern

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  1. FatBack

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    You can try to misinterpret what that means all you want but the courts have long ago ruled the second amendment is an individual right and your opinion does not change that fact.
     
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    Well, now I understand why everyone wants to sit next to her at the next SOTU address.
     
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    Interpreting the constitution does not involve trying to work out an excuse for your own desires.

    I pointed out a solid reason for the 2nd amendment being written that way it is written.

    Today, the right wing courts have wanted everyone to have guns, so, it's not surprising that they ignored HALF of the 2nd amendment.
     
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    Your opinion changes nothing. We the people have a right to keep and bear arms. Rights can be a scary thing but you will be live.

    But thanks for giving us your opinion because people always say that the left doesn't want to ban guns but then we have people who share opinions like yours, that come along and demonstrate that they clearly do
     
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  5. Zorro

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    Interestingly, according to the latest poll from ABC/WaPo, your claim is fake news.

    'If a government shutdown occurs at month's end, 40% say they'd chiefly blame "Bribed Biden 'and the Democrats in Congress.'

    The Republicans ask for just a little budget discipline is exactly why the voters gave them the majority in 2022.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tro...?id=103436611&mc_cid=f4d249874b&mc_eid=UNIQID
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    It's even more insane as the omnibus deal was already agreed to during the debt ceiling impasse, the House had the entire time from June 2023 to the end of September 2023 to work on this, but no, they held hearings on gas stoves and woke this, woke that, woke the other and then they took 47 days for vacation. Meanwhile, the Senate got all their ducks in a row and have all 12 spending packages ready, as required by law.

    The idea is for BOTH houses to get their legislation done so that they have time to hammer out any differences.

    It may very well come down to the House having to pass a CR of the entire omnibus created by the Senate because the MAGAs in the House are incapable of doing the most basic of work.

    But they have time to show pics of Hunter Biden's penis in public hearings.And Lauren Boebert has time to give her first time date a handjob in a public theater where kids are present.

    Hell, it's not even a partisan issue anymore, it's an issue of sanity vs. insanity.
     
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  7. StillBlue

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    List of presidents over the last 40 years with lower deficits at end of term than beginning
    Bush Sr.
    Clinton
    Obama
    and if he died today, Biden.
    Those with higher
    Reagan
    Bush Jr
    T****
    Those with any balanced spending years
    Clinton
    Do you see a common thread there?
    Go back to taxing the rich instead of borrowing from them.
     
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    The bills aren't passed but the 'deal' is agreed to? Weird!

    At a time when Bribed Biden and the Dems have spent us into soul crushing inflation, all the some of the GOP are asking for is a little sensible spending restraint. We're all getting by on less, 2.1% less, but the government has to spend MORE?!?

    According to ABC/WaPo the voters will largely blame a shutdown on Bribed Biden and the Red Ink Dems:

    The federal government might have to partially shut down at the start of next month because of a dispute over spending and policy issues. Who do you think is mainly responsible for this situation - (Biden and the Democrats in Congress) or (the Republicans in Congress)?

    Biden and the Dems 40%
    GOP in Congress 33%
    Both 19%​

    59% will assign at least some blame to Biden/Dems.

    https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1230a3PresidentialPolitics.pdf

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    They can get by on just a little less, just like we have.
     
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    It wasn't about "United Trade" it was about shifting manufacturing to other countries to handle the production rather than China. The real goal would be to reverse the manufacturing being located in foreign countries.
     
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    I saw this same exact bullshit on another forum. Most likely it’s from a Ukrainian propaganda farm aimed at sowing hatred.
     
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    Oh? What part is inaccurate? Shaming doesn't work on me. Go clutch your pearls harder.
     
  12. Bullseye

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    Yeah, the common thread is mindless Democratic nonsense. BTW Clinton' spending was contained by GOP House and Senate< and large FICA surpluses. Bush Jr. had the opposite problem; after he lowered the deficit to a mealy $300 billion, Dems took power and blew the economy up. Same with Obama; while he had a democratic Congress he ran four trillion deficits totaling $5.5 trillion. The the GOP got the house and deficits were cut in half.
     
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    Clinton actually spent less than the Congress budgeted. Oh and FICA? Using that for non FICA payments is part of the debt, Clinton used no FICA money surplus his last year. It's why Gore wanted a locked box for it to prevent the stealing er borrowing from it.
     
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    In Georgia state court yes.
     
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    Nonsense. YOU are the one scared here.

    Entirely removing the 2nd amendment wouldn't mean that people can't own guns. But, today the 2nd amendment is used to confound any and all approaches to reducing gun death in America - which data shows is a very serious problem.
     
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    What Clinton showed America in terms of federal spending was seriously impressive.

    And, FICA is certainly one issue. Today, Republicans whine about solvency while the government loots it.
     
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    Yes. He tried to stop certain individual companies from moving manufacturing to other countries.

    But, Courier moved anyway, and Ford's concession to Trump left them with manufacturing in several countries (including Mexico, that Trump opposed) and they export from there.

    Ford has had manufacturing in China for the last decade. After all, Ford sells cars in China, though sales have been seriously sliding. China is strongly moving away from ICE autos. Fords made in China get exported, but I don't know what percent. Today, their manufacturing in China produces 13 different models.

    Trump seemed to think that the president can control the actions of corporations that are focused on profits, not politics.


    And, he totally screwed the effort to have a Pacific trade organization large enough to have weight against China!! If he really had concerns about China, this was the most obvious direction to take.
     
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    Really?...lol
     
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    If the Senate & House republicans who controlled it stood by him, he could've dictated such a thing. But the two parties are just shills for Zionism and Social Marxism. So even with a tremendous republican win he was still contending with half or more of the party against him. He was fighting an uphill battle with numerous traitors and influencers trying to steer him back onto the gay agenda & neocon warmongering.
     
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    CBO begs to differ - It shows about 375 billion from Social Security counting toward his two surpluses (1999, 2000)
     
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    You can accuse me of being scared all you want but I'm not the one clamoring to strip rights away from my fellow citizens in the name of so-called safety.

    The fear is clearly all yours my good man.

    You should read more on this subject.

    Entirely removing the second amendment is absolutely the first step to making sure that the only people allowed to own guns anymore are the rich and politically connected and the government.

    When you say that you don't support a total ban on guns what you are really saying is that you think only the government should own them and that citizens should not have the right to do so or you would not be so adamantly opposed to the second amendment and evidently threatened and made afraid by people having rights to own guns besides the government overlords.

    You're completely and totally misguided opinion of the second amendment is not going to make it magically not exist for the people.
     
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    Fake news. The longest shutdown in the history of the Republican was when Pelosi and Schumer refused to work with Trump. You see Dems face-planting in the polls as the "let's jail Trump to win 2024" untterly fails and now you pray for chaos that you can exploit and as some misguided Dems play their silly partisan games, and nation comes together:

    CHANGE: Conservative Speaker Reports On ‘My Surprisingly Pleasant Experience At Yale Law School.’ It’s looking as if woke rage is old hat.

    As the nation aligns behind The Trumpster, we forward to our best days.

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    A return to peace, prosperity, and laughter, together.
     
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    Link?
     
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    You make assumption after assumption. And, what the topic is discussed, your more assumptions.

    The gun death rate is a major deal. Blocking all effort to reduce that death rate through ANY means gets major opposition.

    For example, the SC has ruled in favor of guns for addicts. What more can one say?
     
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    Have you got any actions, devoid of emotionalism or "it sounds good, therefore it must be good" mantras that may actually make a difference?
    ETA: UBC, magazine size, registration, training, are non-starters.
     

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