Major General says: 10 retired CIA all claim B/C is a fraud!

See this is exactly what I said would happen. No matter what he says or what he supplies they will just say he is hiding the truth or using fake documents. That is why it is nothing but a conspiracy theory. Obama went through the same vetting process ALL presidents go through. I may not like him but he can be president legally

 

It is called Freedom Of Information Act. Have you ever heard of it?

 

We are still waiting for him to supply something that isn't a forged document. Is that unreasonable to ask?

 

Which doesn't applies in case of medical records which a BC is...

 

And of course it doesn't apply to personnel confidential documents of living persons.

You know this, but pretend otherwise.

President Obama showed the originals to reporters, including the WND reporter. One of those reporters has published photo's of the copy she handled.

The State of Hawaii has authenticated the document that was published for all of America to see.

Only the hardcore Birther zealots are still pushing this Conspiracy theory.

 

At this point yes becuase it does not matter what he supplies you all will just say it is faked. He could raise the docter from the dead that delivered him and all you guys would say is "the dead guy was coached."

 

You will never believe any document provided for Barack Obama is not forged.

And of course, it doesn't matter to you anyway- because you have developed your own definition of natural born citizen designed to exclude Barack Obama anyway.

 

This of course is how responsible Birthers are-

If someone disagrees with them on the internet- they go ahead and post pictures of him and his children on the internet- and tell Birthers where they live.

Come on NB- please go ahead and post photo's of yourself and your children here, and post your address for everyone.

No problem with that is there?

 

the electoral college records, congressional certification of his presidency, and the supreme justice of the supreme court swearing him in.

 

birthers have a mental disease known as confirmation bias

 

And birth records fall under that? Care to give a source for that?

And again if obama would provide the birth certificate, would you bveieve it, or would you asume the small crease at the bottom is proof it was doctered?

 

Provide to a controlling legal authority a valid birth certificate as proof of his Hawaiian (or wherever) birth.

That will be requirement of two necessary for him to be an NBC,

 

Then according to NB, none of our Presidents have ever been eligible.

Since no one has met his self proclaimed 'requirement'.

Is this complete detachment from reality or just doing what he is paid to do?

 

And what controlling legal authority would that be? ANd why no other president had to do this?

 

The General has an impressive resume', but I don't think it's an appropriate tact
to be taking by challenging the CiC. The Judiciary won't touch the issue, it's pretty
much dead in the water.

 

No other president was ineligible.

Federal court, Congress, states' attorney general

 

More military brass are questioning in light of the unlawful orders and unconstitutional wars.

 

Okay this is even wierder logic than normal.

According to NB, only ineligible Presidents need to prove their eligibility.

 

HI law is pretty clear the DoH can't allow just anybody to access its records.

I'm under the impression that applies to federally controlled documents, which obviously wouldn't include HI vital records.

 

How could it be anything BUT appropriate if it's a forgery?

 

The document being requested has already been put out into the public domain, so it no longer has protected status per Hawaii's version of FOIA.

 

No, the purported image of a certified copy of the document is in the public domain. The copies issued to Obama are his property, and the DoH is only allowed to provide such copies, or access to the original, to persons with "direct and tangible interest".

Then cite the provisions thereof which you think allow access beyond that provided for in HRS §338-18.

 

True, the assumed documents belong to Obama, but he has placed them in the public domain, do the confidentiality has been waived by him. No right to privacy remains.

 

No he has not, but that's beside the point.

Whether he has any right to object to the DoH allowing access to the original is beside the point, because the people of HI have said in HRS §338-18 that they can't do it regardless of what he wants - unless he designates someone to act on his behalf, which he is under no legal obligation to do.

 

It does not matter you will just say he bribed or threatened the people that see it. Or that it is just a clever forgery or any number of other things. You are allowing your dislike of the man to cloud your reason. Unfortunately in doing so you leave your self open to ridicule and you harm OUR chances of removing the man because they lump us together with all of you conspiracy theorists.