Man Arrested After Stabbing Spree Kills 4 in Orange County

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  1. ECA

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    You finally got something right. Congrats
     
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    In what way? I am unaware of a conservative movement that supports racial hate. So why infer that there is? The Klan, Antifa, EcoTerrorists, these are all things that the left has spawned...
     
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    Being a part of the solution requires recognizing and admitting when a problem has no solutions. Not simply no easy solutions, but rather no solutions whatsoever. There are times and circumstances in the real world that require and demand individuals acknowledge the situation is indeed hopeless.

    Such applies only when incidents that involve gang-related activity are excluded. If such were not done, if incidents that involved gang-related activity were counted as mass shootings based on the number of individuals killed, individuals who are of minority status would be just as responsible for the loss of life as white individuals.

    The root cause of violence, regardless of the implement utilized, is primarily hatred, which is an immutable aspect of the human species. Thus the question would become one of what can be done to address hatred? Hatred can be condemned, but it cannot be made to simply go away. Hatred can only be driven from public sight, but it will continue to exist and linger, and those who hate for whatever reason will find others with similar viewpoints who will validate their beliefs and make them feel accepted.
     
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    Again...Because you seem challenged......MS-13 has had NOTHING to do with these massacres of late...Those were committed by Angry WHITE men
     
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    Stop feeding this euro-trash and he'll go away.
     
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    Your attempt to blame undocumented workers for these atrocities is bizarre and misplaced
     
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    In 1791 Slavery was legal.....Women had NO rights and America had NO standing Army...Your anologys are weak and easily de-bunked....Your over matched here
     
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    Indeed their is.
     
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    Never heard of the Swiss Army Knife? They export these weapons of war everywhere.
     
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    I don't want to hijack the thread, but ... we must not let the best be the enemy of the good. For equiping a neighborhood defense guard, the AR15 seems to me to be the weapon of choice. For fifty years, Americans who have served have trained on the AR15's M16 daddy, or its M4 cousin. The 5.56 has been good enough for the American military, who probably figured that its ballistic disadvantages were outweighed by the fact that you could carry a lot more ammo for the same weight and the weapon itself is lighter than its 7.62 competitors (or was at the time -- holding an M14 out horizontally in front of you became quite painful pretty quick, not so the M16.) And smaller people could use it. At the time, we often had to equip Asian allies with M1 carbines, hardly a rifle at all, but the M16 did the job.

    Anyway, we've got to standardize on something, something that has serious magazine capacity, that can be used by women and teenagers. The significantly less recoil and a flatter trajectory, compared to the 7.62 are also advantages. Remember we're not talking about professional soldiers. As many people as possible should own the same basic platform. I think the AR15 is an adequate choice for an informal neighborhood home-defense guard, and so everyone should be encouraged to purchase one, plus the usual accessories. It will do the job, should they try to "come and take it". Someone who is a weapons expert may well wish to have something else, and having a genuine sniper who can engage successfully at greater than 500 meters, for every two or three dozen ordinary riflemen, is a good idea, but if we're talking about buying weapons for a bunch of ordinary people, it seems to me the AR15 is a good choice. But you may disagree, so what would you suggest instead? (Perhaps this discussion could be moved to a new thread.)
     
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    A white conservative just killed 22 mostly brown people in El Paso. But, you go ahead and deny that there isn't an element of racism within the conservative movement. And, can you tell me again how many mass shootings can be attributed to Antifa or Ecoterrorists?
     
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    Not too sure banning knives would work either because it's too easy to just sharpen forks. Perhaps the government should study the problem and, if necessary, establish some strict cutlery control laws.
     
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    Say what?.......Bizarre...
     
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    Well they apparently think "illegals" are to blame...The element of denial from the Pro Gun crowd is astounding
     
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    And we expanded people's rights over the years by abolishing slavery and giving blacks and women the right to vote. WE DIDN'T TAKE EXISTING RIGHTS AWAY.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    The military had the same weapons as did the civilians in 1791.
     
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    This is an insane and absurd logic...Arming women and children with weapons of war?....Sounds like something you'd see in Yemen or Somalia...But not in a "civilized" nation
     
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    Your Right for uncontrolled access to Guns does not supersede the rights of Americas to safety...Your bizarre paranoia of the Government not withstanding
     
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    No s**t captain obvious. Is there a specific reason why you're wasting my time with telling me something I already know?
     
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    Your bizarre paranoia of guns doesn't supersede my right for uncontrolled access to Guns.
     
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    Hardly paranoia...After 251 Mass shootings...in less than a year
     
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    New laws are coming...You'll need to adjust...............Or else
     
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    LOL... They don't? Ask how many folks in MS were killed over the weekend, or in LA. Just because these crimes don't fit the neat little box you want to
    You assert that, but his published manifest is anything but conservative. He was very much inline with the ChristChurch dude and very probably a diseffected liberal. His parents certainly raised him in that manner, so what about his life was conservative? Do you really suppose that even within your own party that you don't harbor folks who are also deeply concerned with unfettered illegal immigration? Your position seems pretty convenient for democrats, but it doesn't make it true. So, read the manifesto. This one seems to be as much an eco terrorist than not, as he's simply so distraught about the death of the planet that killing folks a a Walmart seemed like the right thing for him to do. Again, clearly laid out in the manifesto. I'm certain it will be used to define this kid as entirely sane in his trial.
     
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    That has nothing to do with the availability of guns in Scandinavia. Criminals can easily obtain every kind of weapon throughout the EU.
     
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    Handguns are easy to use for anyone who can finger point. Might be a good idea to give gun buyers a brochure with links to a few Youtube videos about gun safety and liability. Other than that gun control laws are always just a threat to public safety.
     

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