Man Burns Down Abortion Clinic, Says He Did It Because He Doesn't Like Abortions

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Makedde, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. Anobsitar

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    What a nonsense - it are always propagators of abortion who are holding women in the shoot line - like you are doing here for example. The simple reason: Men like to (*)(*)(*)(*) but they don't like to take their responsiblity for their own babies. Men are in most cases the worst problem - but this scheming creatures (- a shame that I'm a man myselve - would be thousand times better to be a woman -) - are ... ah forget it: Men are idiots in most cases. The problem is in general: Who helps the women?

    http://youtu.be/8iHkMSMrgjU
     
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    Yes, another the ends justifies the means atrocity while perverting religions message and soiling Gods name while doing it, much like the radical Muslims terrorists are doing but on an exponentially larger scale.

    Reva
     
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    yep.
    terrorism is terrorism no matter who the perpetrator is.

    and when it is done in God's name .... it tarnishes religion as well.

    thank God (well ....) that the majority of religionists of any faith do not believe that they have the right to play God themselves.
     
  4. Anobsitar

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    Do you think you could say a man like Georg Elser for example was a terrorist? He tried to kill Adolf Hitler in the Bürgerbräukeller in München in November 1939 because he wanted to stop war before everythgin got out of control. I'm one of his admirers because it's very interesting what he did. And in all cases - success or defeat - the situation for him personally was [nearly] forlorn. But he was convinced to do ther right thing. And he did the right thing. Unfortunatelly he was not successfull.

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    I am sorry, but I have no idea what you are trying to say.
     
  6. Anobsitar

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    That is a post that I fully 100% agree with!

    Reva
     
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    Why? Experiment in thoughts: What would you really do - I know that no one knows this until he's in the real situation - if you had to travel back into time and to see how someone tries to murder your grandmother when she was a little foetus in her mother. What are you really doing today if you see how someone kills today the mother of a mother of a future grandchild? Is it not better to do something against this form of selfd'amnation of all mankind what's wrong on noble reasons - instead to do nothing because someone is a coward? Even Mahatama Ghandi said violence is better than to be a coward [but the way of non-violence is much more better].

    http://youtu.be/Chp9BKM_AJo
     
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    So this kind of thinking is very favorable to eugenists. If you don't know what eugenics is all about, look it up. The founder of your beloved baby killing program was a eugenist. Planned Parenthood is the biggest attack against African Americans since slavery and the KKK. Fetuses have feelings. At a certain point in development, (which I know could not pull on the heart strings of such like you) they smile, have dreams, they absolutely do feel the burning and dismemberments of their tiny bodies. But I know, all that does not matter as long as a woman has the right refuse responsibility for her own actions. So yes, let all dehumanize unborn children as parasites, and their mothers as hosts, aka victims of what the human body is supposed to to when a man ejaculates inside a woman. What a sad and dissapointing world we live in. :no: I recognize that there is nothing I can do to change those who don't have a conscience or heart, but for those who agree with what I am saying, regardless of how "trendy" abortion seems, and how "trendy" it is to agree with it, you are not alone. There are still others out there, like you, who have regular human emotions.
     
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    Margaret Sanger opposed abortion. No babies are killed at Planned Parenthood. African American women voluntarily seek the services of Planned Parenthood; they are not the victims of genocide. Most abortions are performed by the end of the 8th week, long before fetuses can feel, dream or smile. A zygote/embryo/fetus uses the woman's resources at her cost so by description, it is a parasite. Abortion has occurred for as long as women have had unwanted pregnancies. Sorry, it is not a "trend" that will someday become unfashionable. Any more anti-woman disinformation talking points, or does that about cover it?
     
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    Please - you are calling a helpless human being parasite only on tautological reasons - because otherwise the human rights would protect this human being. To be 1,2,4,8 weeks old is as normal as to be 1,2,4,8 years old. We should just simple have the first birthday 3 month after the calculated birth. In this case we could see how abortions are reducing the average lifespan.

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    To be 8 weeks old? That happens 8 weeks after birth.
     
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    That's why I call this war "the invisible war". It died more human beings on reasons of abortion than soldiers died in world war 2. I don't have any idea why you like to hide the innocent victims of this mass-murdering war behind an intentional blindness.

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    Why must you redefine words to support your belief? There is no consensus that a zygote/embryo/fetus is a human being, and therefore abortion is not murder.
     
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    It has nothing to do with eugenics.

    So what? Many people were then, it was mainstream. That does not imply current PP supports forced eugenic policies.

    How can you attack someone when there is no force? Its the black women who want abortions who come to PP clinics, noone drags them there.

    Indeed, but not before 5th month of fetal development, since brainwaves appear then, and without brainwaves there cannot be any sentience.
    I do not support abortions on the third trimester, but there is nothing wrong with abortions before 5th month.
     
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    Umm, a one year old child can crawl and is learning their first words, and cutting their first teeth. A one week old zygote is so small it cannot be seen with the naked eye, and it looks nothing more than a ball of cells.

    And you say there is no difference? LOL.
     
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    Some people - modern scientists - are even able to see the color of the eyes and the color of the hairs in an human being that is a one week old embryo. A law what allows to kill human beings because they are to little or to young or because they have still not enough cells is nonsense. Every human being since human beings are existing was a one week old embryo once. You too. This gives no one any right to kill a human being.

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    It's impossible to give any other comment than "What a nonsense" to such a view on the world. With the same argument people are killing each other because enemies are not human beings but monsters. What a nonsense. Un-be-liev-able.

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    After one week of development, it is still a zygote, and it can still split, forming two "human beings" up to 14 days after conception.
     
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    NO CONSENSUS. How about good sense? Or maybe some sympathy or pity or SOMETHING!
     
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    So you can see if someone kills a one week old human being he's maybe killing even two human beings. One shoot - two cadavers, hero.

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    a crazy, drunk homeless guy. That had to hurt heh? The very people that the left depends on evey four years to come in and vote up to seventy times for a bottle of cheap liquor? and here some of these guys seem to be working for the other side.
     
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    First off, I am an African American woman. I know first hand on how Planned Parenthood targets African American women. My mother had an abortion, I have relatives who have had abortions. So, I think I have an idea on how it effects the woman. It sickens me that some of you white women even think that you have a clue on what is really going on. You think it's all rainbows and sunshine, just a bunch of women happily exercising their right to choose. You don't know the type of manipulation used against women who have abortions. Don't you dare tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about. I am missing a brother or a sister today because of the choice that my mother made and in part due to the fact that the "doctors" helped convince her that she was doing the right thing. I don't know, maybe your passionate support of abortion is motivated by your hatred towards us black people. I'm lucky to be alive because my mother never wanted to do what she did again. Planned Parenthood was set up as a population control system for people they deemed unworthy of life.
     
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    I'm convinced no one is able to kill a human being without consequences. Lots of people agree - me too - that it looks often in the way as if some sins and sinners become punished in this world here directly - this are the lucky people! I don't know what will follow after death - but nevertheless I have to warn not to take any risk in direction "d_amnation". The flying dutchman or pirates in general are a picture for this situation "lost souls on a wide ocean".

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    You know, on one of wanderings around the comments section of internet websites, I saw someone make the following argument(paraphrased, can't remember it word for word):

    The author says that if he was personally aware of even one baby being murdered in his vicinity, he would be stopping it instead of typing on a computer. If pro-lifers were really convinced that abortion is murder, which means that abortion has killed over 500,000,000 million babies, where are the armies of engraged Christians? Where is the mass uprising? Where are the marchers in the streets and the fiery impassioned speeches? Where is the call to battle to snuff out this injustice? It seems more like the majority of pro-lifers will read about it, rage a little on the internet, fart, and then go back to watching American Idol(this last line was from the author as well, not my own words).

    End Paraphrasing

    I don't necessarily agree with his assessment of pro-life people. While I'm sure that's true of some, it's true of any group of people regarding any issue. There will be some who take action and some who just talk. But his overall point is valid. I don't think he's necessarily saying Christian's ought to be armed and marching on abortion clinics, but it does seem a little weird that they claim all these murders are happening yet only a tiny tiny handful of them actually try to stop them. Some do it through protests or violence(like the man this thread is about), others try to do it through legal channels and manipulation of the law(see that disgusting forced vaginal probing law). That's what the entire personhood debate is about. On one hand, it's a testament to the political process here in America where we don't rise up and commit violence against those we disagree with, but on the other hand, the stark terms used by the right to frame and shape the abortion debate seems to leave little room for anything but a call to arms.
     

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