Man divorced wife because she chose to abort his child

I think the topic is abortion - fetus, not child.

And, "jurisdiction" or ?? would have been a better choice than "property".

 

There is not a CHANCE that is the end of the conversation.

You are totally missing basic concepts here.

 

(((Sigh)))

So? Every single day a multitude of conceptus fail to implant of those that do more fail to progress of those that do many miscarry naturally

in fact the natural failure rate between fertilisation and birth is so high that abortion only alters the odds somewhat

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...rtion-in-the-u-s-2/ft_2023-01-11_abortion_01/

Let us compare this with natural miscarriage loss

https://www.marchofdimes.org/find-s... happens after,have a healthy pregnancy later.

 

Errrrr no.
At two months it has a primitive nervous system but no “brain”. I am assuming you mean eight weeks of foetal age not eigth week of pregnancy as I am sure you know that pregnancy dates are taken from the last known menses and are therefore 2 weeks longer than actual foetal age.


https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Human_System_Development

 

Every single day human beings from all stages of development-from the moment of conception to old age-- die of natural causes. Are you justifying the targeted killing of individual human life because many die of natural causes?

 

Every day there are people dying of kidney failure who cannot get transplants - you presumably have two healthy kidneys so is your failure to donate an organ “targeted killing”?

 

You are trying so hard to justify a mother killing her baby. Her unborn baby. First your argument had something to do with dying doesn't mean anything because you believe in reincarnation. Then your argument changed to "well many babies die in utero anyway" and now your argument is that people die because they don't get someone's else's kidney.

 

You can try as you might to misconstrue the posts of others.

But, the bottom line is that you have no foundation for an argument other than your claim that a fetus is a person. And, that is very obviously a religious opinion at most.

It's time to back off on the attempts to assault women's healthcare and privacy.

 

The bottom line is that you advocate the killing of unborn babies. Sorry that's disgusting. You should back off. It doesn't look pretty.

And never did I say a fetus was a person. That is a legal term. The unborn are individual human lives at a certain stage of development. And if you were killed at six weeks gestation or if you were murdered tomorrow....the end result is the same. You would be dead.

 

It is not a “baby” but a foetus and sorry but with 8 billion people on this earth many of whom will die in childhood I would much much much rather save those that are real, born and living.

This is what pings me off big time with the so called “right to life” brigade - where is the infrastructure needed to support mothers and babies? Are you in favour of paid maternity leave? How about a baby bonus? What about free maternity and post natal care? Improvements in child care?

 

And what is your support for born babies? What choice would YOU a make if a mothers life was at risk?

 

I am just curious, are you part of the Hindu religion? I think maybe Buddhists believe in reincarnation to.

 

Buddhist but mostly agnostic with a sprinkling of pantheism and solipsism

 

To be honest, I don’t really like the thought of reincarnation. My concern is that I would be reincarnated and have a really bad life, or I have to deal with things not getting better than this. I know I am an introvert, so I don’t really like being around people. Things getting better for me would involve living in a much less complicated society with peace and quiet.

 

Do you all Buddhist believe in reincarnation? I don’t have much experience with that religion but my husband and I are talking about traveling to Thailand in Cambodia. I might be learning a lot more in the future.

 

I am more worried about coming back as a dung beetle lols!

 

I don’t understand the point. Yeah if my mom aborted me, then I wouldn’t be alive right now, and I wouldn’t be able to contemplate the fact that I was even aborted because I never had a conscience human brain and lacked the capability to comprehend life or death. There’s nothing frightening about the situation at all. In fact, it proves that abortion hurts anti abortion advocates more than it hurts an actual embryo.

 

Yes burnt not s most believe it. The idea is that through each incarnation you strive towards Buddha hood

 

I don’t know, but maybe dung beetles love doing what they do. You’re just looking at it from the perspective of a human and not a dung beetle.

 

I'd be more concerned about coming back as one of those fetuses you believe women have the right to assert their rights over.

Did you ever wonder what it's actually like?

 

then have to learn to control the mind now, before in the situation where in death, one panics like Moths trying to find the light, the light is the doorway to rebirth, want to avoid rebirth, avoid the light

maybe the light you see is the light from outside the womb, once you enter.... you take your first breath... again

 

why worry about that, you would just move on to the next available fetus (vessel), who wants to be an unwanted baby, a vessel where you are wanted would be better

what do people that believe in God thinks happens to those fetuses? free ticket to heaven? hell? if heaven, would that not be perfect? if hell, why would a good God do that?

 

I'd be more concerned about coming back as a woman in a world where sick people think women shouldn't have the right to their own bodies while those who oppress them enjoy that right and would never give it up..

Do I ever wonder what it's like to not exist? No.

See post 142....explains it all ..

 

If you're talking about a 2 month fetus ,,,LOL what experience has it had?

AND if it's such a separate being then then it should be able to come out of the woman , be put on a shelf to GROW ON IT'S OWN

 

and this is at 26 weeks

http://www.slate.com/id/2120872/

"a member of President Bush's Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain, current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn't possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead."