Man divorced wife because she chose to abort his child

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    It is her body, NOT his....he DID NOT BUY HER...he married her.





    There is NO "child"..

    There is NO SIGNED CONTRACT.

    She owes him NOTHING.

    It is HER body, ALL OF IT...not his...

    He can no more force her to gestate than he can force her to give him a kidney.

    It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...


    If it's his then why doesn't HE have to suffer through 9 months of pregnancy and the pain involved, the permanent physical effects, the job loss involved, the financial loss, the agony of child birth


    GEE MEN sure like to take the easy way out and leave the women to be strong and pay the price of his 20 seconds of pleasure so they don't have to.....weaklings...


    And that's one big SHRUG......they will both be better off....divorce is not a huge tragedy
     
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    I was once an embryo, and it’s like nothing at all. Do you remember what it’s like to be an embryo and not have a brain stem or most of your human organs? If I came back as an embryo that was aborted, it’s not terrifying. abortions do not hurt an embryo. Abortions only hurt people like you.
     
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    In your belief system, if somebody doesn’t go through the light to be reincarnated, what happens to them?
     
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    I think if my government forced me to have a baby and continue a pregnancy that I don’t want, I honestly do think I’d be very resentful probably would take it out on the kid. At that point anti abortioists have no reason to expect a person like that to be a good parent. If they make it so you have to have a kid you don’t want? in my opinion, they need to **** and not surprised when kids aren’t be loved. Do they plan on telling women to have kids and then telling us how to parent kids? I don’t feel I need to listen to them.
     
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    they are then no longer in the life\death cycle, don't know what happens then
     
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    That's your opinion. If you plant a seed, and it bears up fruit. Is the fruit yours or does it belong to the earth? In truth, a child belongs to the Father because he is the cause of it. So to say that a Father has no say in the matter is to spout gibberish. Women don't spontaneously conceive, such that the beginning and end are theirs alone to determine.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    It is her body, NOT his....he DID NOT BUY HER...he married her.





    There is NO "child"..

    There is NO SIGNED CONTRACT.

    She owes him NOTHING.

    It is HER body, ALL OF IT...not his...

    He can no more force her to gestate than he can force her to give him a kidney.

    It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...


    If it's his then why doesn't HE have to suffer through 9 months of pregnancy and the pain involved, the permanent physical effects, the job loss involved, the financial loss, the agony of child birth


    GEE MEN sure like to take the easy way out and leave the women to be strong and pay the price of his 20 seconds of pleasure so they don't have to.....weaklings...



    And that's one big SHRUG......they will both be better off....divorce is not a huge tragedy

    I see you couldn't address any of my points :)

    """It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...""""


    LOL If men could get pregnant there would be free abortion clinics on every corner...
     
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    Do Buddhists believe in spirits? Or is there only this material world?
     
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    If two people enter an agreement. Then it requires those two people to end that agreement, especially if it is a new life.
     
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    sure, some even believe in God(s)
     
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    I know there are people who agree with your view here. One group is white evangelical protestants, where a majority oppose abortion. I don't mean to imply this is only a religious issue.

    Still, a significant majority of America doesn't share your view.

    Plus, trying to control abortion by the laws being written IS an assault on women's healthcare, privacy and personal bodily autonomy.

    Obviously, you can run your life the way you choose, but using the government to do this kind of damage to women's health against their will and in many cases against the advice of healthcare professionals is just plain not acceptable.
     
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    Different ideas on whether to have children or not, particularly when she's already advanced maternal age, is definitely a good reason to reconsider marriage. Love matters but isn't everything. Whether to have kids or not is a pretty key thing to need to agree on in a marriage.

    I mean, maybe he feels like it's a murder of an unborn child, but even if he feels that, it doesn't make it true. Having the same values would also be a plus. That said, feeling grief for a loss of pregnancy doesn't necessarily mean one believes it's a person already, it's more the loss of something that had become expected and was desperately wanted. Purposely taking that away without good cause is definitely a potential source of resentment.

    He's wrong if he thinks it's an "unborn child" but the wife couldn't possibility appreciate how much having a child would change her view on things. Still, it's her choice whether to have a baby, and it's his choice whether to stay with her.
     
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    If your stage of development never included a mind, then "you" never existed in a morally meaningful sense. "You" were always just a possibility that didn't happen, like the trillions+ other potential persons who never came to exist because an egg went unfertilized, a sperm didn't make it to an egg, or a fertilized egg naturally didn't make it. All the same. All morally irrelevant.
     
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    Instead of bringing up religion...you could respond to my logical and pretty straight forward posts.
     
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    I did.

    Apparantly, you only read half my post!!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    It is her body, NOT his....he DID NOT BUY HER...he married her.





    There is NO "child"..

    There is NO SIGNED CONTRACT.

    She owes him NOTHING.

    It is HER body, ALL OF IT...not his...

    He can no more force her to gestate than he can force her to give him a kidney.

    It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...


    If it's his then why doesn't HE have to suffer through 9 months of pregnancy and the pain involved, the permanent physical effects, the job loss involved, the financial loss, the agony of child birth


    GEE MEN sure like to take the easy way out and leave the women to be strong and pay the price of his 20 seconds of pleasure so they don't have to.....weaklings...



    And that's one big SHRUG......they will both be better off....divorce is not a huge tragedy



    I see you couldn't address any of my points :)

    """It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...""""


    LOL If men could get pregnant there would be free abortion clinics on every corner...

    No. Where's the legal papers they signed ??? Aren't any? Then there's no agreemant or law that affects them :)

    I see you couldn't address any of my points :)

    """It's a very caveman mentality that says if a man has sex with a woman he owns her....very backwards and primitive, sexist and misogynistic...""""....and not true....a lie...
     
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    Abortion and divorce are two great things we need to celebrate.
     
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