Mankind is peace-loving folk so disfavor loose cannons and GOP is such

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Will 2024 see the final implosion that will finish off the GOP for good and forever?

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  2. no way José

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  3. probably

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  4. I wouldn't rule it out

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  5. undecided

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  6. tough call, that one

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  7. could be but it's too early to speculate

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    Yet you want the Republican Party destroyed to be replaced by a party with no organization and very little money. It is little more than a political thought in the back of a few people’s minds.

    It took the Republicans six years to go from formation to the election of Abraham Lincoln. They had a head start with the Whig Party organization in place. The new party has nothing but a senator whose political career in West Virginia is probably over within the Democrat Party organization.
     
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    The nascent new party could easily burgeon overnight based on what you just said! ..about the Whig party "handing off" its organizational fundament or something. GOP could hand off to the new Manchin et al thing.
     
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    What kind of economy do people like you want?
     
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    Every month, it seems, the new job creation statistics surpass expectations. I'm no economist mind you. Sure, I'm a Biden man -- no doubt. 'Love what Biden has done. Sure, while stumping Biden claimed he would cure cancer if elected; and to my way of thinking, he has. Put simply, he excised the cancer that was Trump.
     
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    If you think that a lot of conservative Republicans are going to jump on board for Mansion, a man who broke his word and voted for Biden’s “Inflation Reduction Plan” (what a joke and a lie), you are dreaming. Personally, I don’t trust Mansion. I’d have a hard time voting for him.
     
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    So the truth comes to light. You are a Biden man. If that’s true, why are you talking about a third party? Is it because you want to divide Biden’s political opposition?

    It looks like you are out to destroy the Republican Party after all. If you want to make fools of us, you would do well to at least place you pro Biden sentiments in more isolated places.
     
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    The only way the Republicans would implode is if the Democrats offered a viable alternative, and they very much don't. The Republican party is not dying, and is not going anywhere.
     
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    Well that sort of depends on how you define 'Republican' doesn't it.

    If you define Republican as a socially conservative, pro liassez-faire/pro business political party historically favoring low taxes and minimal state intervention in the personal lives of citizens? The yes, to the extent there are a significant % of the American people who still hold true to those values then it's probably 'not going anywhere'.

    If however you define define Republican as 'I support Donald Trump no matter what and the election was stolen regardless of what the courts say and the US Constitution means what I say it does?. Then no, it is in fact going somewhere. Unfortunately that 'somewhere' is not a place anyone who believes in democracy truly wants to go. Would for instance Abraham Lincoln support that particular version of 'Republicanism'?
     
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    Don't accuse me of being some slayer, I'll thank you, harrumph. What is happening that will TERMINATE the GOP was set in motion long ago by Republicans themselves.
     
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    Not beaten at the polls mind you, but "excised" as in "removed", rather than bested at the polls.
    Since Trump winning is an "end of life as we know it" event for you, are you in favor of cheating to attain this goal since the stakes are so great?
     
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    No no. And I don't understand your drift :spin: Check that: I do understand your drift. You're one of those dopes who still accept The Big Lie that the 2020 "was stolen". Ahem :rock_slayer: ..us in the real world, who follow the true beacon like say MS-NBC ...we know better.
     
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    There are still plenty of Republicans out there, both as voters and as politicians, who aren't on the Donald Trump ship to nowhere. Yes they're Republicans but they aren't Trump Republicans. It's really no different than how there are Democrats who aren't progressives. Both Trump and the progressive movement as a majority are relatively recent developments and it's far too soon to say that they have taken over and killed their respective parties. Now, if in 20 or 30 years time we're still arguing over stolen elections and pronouns, that determination may change.
     
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    Totally agree. A large % of the Republican base are not Trumpist, even more so among the conservative leaning, non-registered general public. However the 'true believers like all fanatics yell louder and longer than anyone else and lobby harder. So right now at the senior administrative and Political levels? The lunatics seem to have taken over the asylum. What is required is that the large pool of non-Trump Republicans fight back and respond.

    The question is how? In most parts of the country any attempt to seek a seat at the table without swearing your undying support for the God King gets you called a Rhino, a traitor and or a Democrat stooge. That leaves the ballot box which is a distasteful option for many Republicans and since you don't have mandatory voting its an easy one to avoid.
     
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    But they're too awful afraid to pipe up and lay claim to a stance. GOP is doomed.
     
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    Sure, yes, and it bears repeating: I love what Biden and Doc Jill have done. They're such a blessed darling couple y'know.
     
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    Your standards for national leadership aren’t very high. No wonder you want only one political party.
     
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    So far you have said nothing about governance. The economy under Biden is chaos. It is teetering on stagflation.
    In all of your bloviating you have not once set out an economic goal beyond getting rid of Trump who created the best economy for the middle class in 40 years and he did it by dumping Obamanomics - another democrat shell game.
    You have said nothing beyond hating Trump. Anyone can do that. It is boring.
     
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    That's no more likely than finally getting the neocons to officially switch to Dem. I mean it might happen, they basically are, but folks have been waiting and waiting and it never actually happens. Status quo seems the likely bet in both cases.
     
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    confusion arghh I deleted this by brute force cuz I know not the right way to delete
     
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    I would think that the neo-cons are switching to Dem. Not all but most have left the Republican Party, whether they've gone to the Democrats or not, so I don't see anything to cause this process to slow down or stop.
     
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    Here's hoping ur right.
     
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    What kind of a country do you want?
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/508169/historically-low-faith-institutions-continues.aspx Gallup B.png
     
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    What are you and those many others going to do if the "impending implosion" doesn't happen? It isn't like the elitist intellectual snobbery of the DNC is any more appealing to the deplorables today than it was when Trump won the first time. The dems are really going to struggle if their fundraising continues to slump the way it was been in the face of Trump who is the master of free media.
     
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    I can give this a quick response alright but it likely won' satisfy. Biden was told at some point between November 2020 and his inauguration that he would not be allowed to claim the oval office because those powerful MAGA statemen just weren't going to let it happen, no way no how. Biden was told that he faced an insurmountable obstacle because the outgoing administration was lock stock and barrel poised to not accept Biden's uh ascent. Biden calmly replied on that topic, "They will". And sure enough, they did. When push came to shove, MAGA backed down and Biden took office. Biden was what you might say "called, faithful, and chosen" to borrow a Biblical phrasing. And yes, things did, eventually, unfold per Biden's assertion. All of these minute back-and-forths are hard to recollect for the most part, but I sure as hell recollect all of it clear as day and the records will bear me out. Just as sure as Biden was when he uttered his fateful "They will", so am I sure that the implosion - or what I have since started to call "flashpoint" - will unfold. Some things are just plain in the stars or in the cards. Just as sure as Pluto visits Aquarius ever 248 years without fail, sure are us Dems that the MAGA movement is a flop and as Trump goes down, the GOP will be dragged down along with Trump in his demise. Trump cares about no one but himself so the outcome is a no-brainer.

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    P.S. My gastro-enterologist is New York born and raised and he told me day before yesterday that he will vote Trump for sure. Their people are quite blind. It's The End, just listen again to the oldie song, Telstar. Just listen dang it. Do it. We're entering the dawning, the new age. Listen again to Telstar dang it. Listen.
     
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    Every two years since I can recall, the tombstone for the GOP starts getting carved by the democrats. Every two years since I can recall, the GOP has dug itself out of the pet sematary.
     

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