Manslaughter Warrant Coming for Officer Who Killed Man in His Dallas Apartment

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Officer-Fatally-Shoots-Man-492675981.html

Just last week, we tried and sentenced a Dallas area cop for 1st degree murder in a situation where he was responding to a "shots fired" call and shot and killed a kid who was in a car leaving the scene. It was a stupid shoot and easily manslaughter.

Today, a female Dallas officer killed a man who was inside her apartment, except it was actually his apartment and the cop shot him in his front doorstep when he opened his door. She went to the wrong door and was interrupted trying to use her key in his lock. Everyone is expecting manslaughter charges, but her crime was obviously worse than that of Roy Oliver last year. She killed a man for answering his door in his underwear when no crime had been committed by anybody. Why the double standard?

Also, Dallas is 850 officers short in hiring because they have been paying their officers far below the normal salary for the area. Dallas has just announced a pay increase coming, but did this shooting happen because Dallas could only attract poor quality recruits with the low pay they have been offering? Most of my Dallas police friends have moved to the suburbs for better pay and conditions. (I don't blame them.) I'm so glad I moved my family out of Dallas County 15 years ago.

 

I was not present at either shooting but my guess is the sentence will be reduced for the first cop

The the second shooting by the female off-duty cop is far more inexcusable

 

I've been saying this for a while.

With the targets, both literal and figurative on cops backs nowadays, anyone with the option not to be a cop is going to choose a different profession.

 

I've encouraged friends of mine that have lived in those look alike apartment complexes to put something on their door that differentiates it from the others.

Different color if allowed....anything that makes your entry stand out from the others.

 

I accept that it was mistaken identity

But the female cop will have to pay for her mistske

 

Yes, things have certainly changed. In the good old days a cop could kill someone, and no one would question his actions. Now, you have to give a reason for why you kill someone, and "I was in fear for my life" doesn't always work every time like it used to.

 

You can sort of understand the situation.

I've tried opening the door to the wrong apartment on more than one occasion. Just preoccupied and thinking about something else.

So imagine you're opening the door to what you assume is your apartment, when all of a sudden out of nowhere a big man comes up behind you, and you don't see any reason he should be there. Then you're trained as a police officer and your reflex instincts take over, just getting back from a long day of work and you're feeling mentally tired, and a little jittery because you've been out on patrol in some unsafe neighborhoods.

That doesn't excuse her, of course.

 

Says the people who call the cops every time a tree creaks outside.

 

I mean to keep it from happening in the first place.

She was clearly a moron.

 

Nobody came up behind her. He was inside his own house when she tried to open the door. He opened it to see what was happening and she killed him. If her police training caused her to kill him, that's some f**ked up police training.

 

Why would you assume that?

 

That does sound really bad.

But think about this. Just, completely hypothetically, let's imagine it was her home. A police officer is trying to open up the door to their home when all of a sudden somebody from the inside opens it and there's a strange man who shouldn't be there. Now, at the very least it would be understandable if she instinctively pulled out her gun.

If she had her key in the door she might have lunged forward as the door opened inward, the key still in her hands and stuck in the keyhole. The door suddenly opens unexpected and suddenly out of nowhere she's a three feet distance away from this strange man.

Whom somewhere in her mind she automatically assumes must be a burglar. She's tired, not thinking clearly, and this all happens in three seconds.

In the police training they teach them to shoot within seven feet, if there's a threat, since an assailant can cover a lot of ground fast, and if the officer waited until the assailant was just a few feet away it might be too late.

Well, maybe not a burglar, some crazy guy in his underwear. If you were a young woman, what would you think?

A bad decision with very tragic consequences for both parties but I'm just saying put yourself in her shoes. It might not have been as stupid as it appears.

 

It wasn't her house. Even drunk, most people know their own house. Imagine if she wasn't a cop. A stranger tries to open a door, and when the occupant comes to see what's happening, the stranger kills him. Do you think anyone would be trying to defend the killer? Cops should reasonably be expected to make better decisions than the average citizen, especially in a tense situation. What she did wasn't as reasonable as an average citizen would be expected to do. It was more like what would be expected from an MS13 gang member. Sorry, but it was stupid, and that badge doesn't justify anything in this case.

 

I think "diversity" quotas play a role in some of these tragedies. Reports released in Minneapolis on the 1st Somali cop on the force indicate Noor was never fit for service, but hired anyway. Noor's out on bond, and of course Minneapolis tax payers are on the hook in the wrongful death of Justine Damond.

 

I suspect so

She went to the wrong apartment and then shot a man for no reason

 

You are playing with blasphemy to suggest that many women cops should not be on the street because they are unqualifed to do a mans job

This unnamed cop may be one of those women but we need more information first

 

I still see a double standard in how she is being treated compared to Roy Oliver. The same DA is going for manslaughter charges where Roy Oliver got murder 1. Oliver was on duty responding to a “shots fired” call. She was walking in from her car and shot an unarmed man in his own place. Maybe it’s good that I always answer my door with a gun on my hip. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

 

You make very logical and valid points

The male officers partner disputed the claim that is life was in danger

That was damning testimony against the male cop

But it was still in the line of duty

For the lady cop we just have to wait and see

Clearly she is incompetent but was it murder?

I dont know

 

I've never tried to enter the wrong apartment, but I've tried to open the door on someone else's car in a parking lot. If cars are the same year, make, model, color, etc. and you're distracted by something, it's easy to get confused.

I've done this twice. Luckily, the owner wasn't nearby to see it.

 

Involuntary manslaughter.....
5 year sentence.....serves 1.5....probation

She killed someone. No way around that. It was probably a mistake. No excuse. But probably no INTENT.
She will get sympathy as a woman because while a tragedy, it is understandable how it happened.

If you live in apartments or where every door looks the same.....do something to differentiate your door or entryway.

 

Got it. It's the dead guy's fault because he didn't paint his door another color. Consider the same situation, only this time, the killer isn't a cop. There would be no discussion of sympathy for the killer, or leniency made for circumstances.

 

Agreed. Intent doesn't always have to be malicious. The fact that she was carrying heat and used heat, is intent enough in the court of law. First degree murder.

 

He did have a rug outside his door. Should have been enough for the cop to stop and think for a second but, no, not this one.

▪▪▪▪▪▪▪▪▪▪

Next-door neighbor Alyssa Kinsey said Jean's unit looked the same as everyone else's from the outside but did have a red half-moon-shaped rug outside the front door.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...ported-cedars-near-dallas-police-headquarters

 

of course also a police officer, may just be giving a story to cover up the real crime to make it a lesser charge too, be interesting if they were dating or anyone ever saw them together in past

did she say 'police hands up', was the shooting at the door entrance, is she being cooperative or lawyer'g up

I have tried to get in the wrong car before and my key did not work, but never a wrong apartment, how long did she live there

 

hmmm, from that

""I won't go into that information right now," said Sgt. Warren Mitchell, a police spokesman. "We have not interviewed her. ... We still have a lot to do in this investigation.""

you think if not a cop, they woudl not interview the suspect the night of the crime?

you interview them, that way if later the evidence doesn't support their story, it's harder for them to change it