Map showing where the murders are in the U.S.

For those complaining about the high murder rates in the U.S., take a look at this map.
This is a map that most people are very unlikely to ever be shown.



Just 2 percent of the counties in the U.S. are responsible for 51 percent of the murders in the entire country.

Now, of course I realize this map is not entirely "fair", since the population of the country is not evenly spread out and is concentrated into certain small areas, but I believe what is shown in this map goes beyond that.

It turns out that more than half the counties (54%) didn't have a single murder.

If you compare this map with Democrat and Republican Party leaning counties in the country, the areas with the high murder rates almost entirely lines up with the Democrat counties.
(you can see a map here to compare: click for map )

This may not be obvious to many of you when you look at the map, but what's interesting is most of those all-white rural conservative counties, where almost every other household has a gun, have very low murder rates.
(Not just in numerical terms, but even if we adjust for per capita homicide rates)

The problem of gun homicides in the U.S. seems to be a problem in some areas, and not others. And those areas where it is not a problem do not have strict gun control laws.

Now, I'm going to be fair and I am not going to claim that this means that gun control laws do not help reduce gun homicide rates. But what I think it does seem to suggest is that lack of gun control laws is probably not the real primary factor causing the U.S.'s homicide rates.

 

Did you include the open plains of Oklahoma? I hear there's an angry cow or two.

 

Hmm, what could all those white areas on the map have in common with Canada or all those low-crime European countries? Hmm...

 

low population?

 

I saw the source and the oh! Bless! It is the completely misnamed “Crime Prevention Research Centre”. John Lott is pretty infamous for having “published” the now completely debunked “More Guns Less Crime” and his unethical shenanigans in relation to research

 

I dunno has Canada and Europe got unethical idiots playing Ad agencies for the NRA?

 

Hmmm.

2020 election, by county

 

Don't like the message, attack the messenger
Typical..
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Lott's studies didn't start with the premise that he wanted to help gun ownership-he was originally anti gun. The anti gun "studies" invariably are outcome based. My favorite is how many gun banners call a "home with a gun" as one where the gun used to kill or injure an occupant was not in the home until and INTRUDER entered the home while armed.

 

translation-anti gun activists-even foreign ones who have no relevance to the USA as either voters or taxpayers-hate the NRA far more than real criminals. why-because the anti gun movement is invariably a leftwing authoritarian/collectivist movement

 

If you want even more fun, look at the disparity between the groups for past criminal behavior and substance abuse in those studies. It's like 3 to 1 at least.

 

Really.

Who debunked him.

 

there is some butt hurt idiot on facebook who has such a hard on for Lott, he has started his own propaganda site that tries to debunk Lott. I read most of his garbage-not only does he have no academic credentials that are relevant, he constantly lies-such as counting suicides as "violent gun deaths" and of course counts "children" as people old enough to be serving in combat infantry positions. It's like many other anti gun "non profits" such as the pitiful grifter sites that were allegedly created over outrage concerning Sandyhook or the David Hogg event in Florida. You know how bothersome Lott is to the safe working conditions for felons activists when they are this upset with him

 

I think this map makes it clearer;



Oh, sorry, that's population density rather than crime rate. I hope you accept that is an understandable error given how similar they are.

 

High population density + Democrats = high crime.
Interesting.

 

Not necessarily. High population density will naturally lead to high crime density (which is what the OP map is apparently showing, albeit limited to murder). As it happens, high population density traditionally aligns with Democrat votes for various reasons.

If you look at data for crime rates per capita, the picture is much more mixed, given that the causal factors for various types of crime are multiple and varied.

 

Low population density?

 

Might as well be showing us a population density map.

 

Guess I should read the whole thread before posting.

Well said!

 

Cows?
What do you think it is?

 

The lesson of this seems to be that we should ban cities and any other high population density areas, and until then, heavily police these high crime areas with stop and frisk.

 

As long as we’re being absurd, I propose we ban Alaska as well. It has the highest per capita crime rate of any state in the US.

 

The original map traces back to John Lott - ‘nuff said

 

Banning cities is absurd, but to heavily police these high crime areas with stop and frisk isn't. It's been done before successfully.

 

Who didn’t?
Even his Wiki page outlines how bad that research was that he based his book on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime