Marxist teacher who called for 'forceful cultural revolution' lands seat on state legislature

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    Biden doesn't run the DOJ.

    Why did you raise the topic of Biden ? Please stay on topic and stop trying to deflect.
     
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    Your implication, that blacks have achieved equal status with whites, is wrong. The record, though, does show continued progress; that is hardly a reason to give up on the objective. Racial equality, firstly, is not assessed by merely the few exceptional situations, but by the overall groups. And you are sorely mistaken, it you think there are any stats that will show the levels of financial achievement, to be equal. But even when we do limit ourselves to just those high profile standouts, the most prestigious positions-- like CEO's and Senators-- are far under-represented, by blacks.

    Yes, according to the article, below, the U.S. House has just become representational, with now 13% of its members being black-- with Senators, however, we are only at 3%.
    Since Senatorial campaigns are very expensive, and benefit from having contacts among the economically elite, who tend to be chummy with others of their same status, it is hard not to tie this disparity, in good part, back to the financial disparities, that have long existed.

    Nearly all Senators are millionaires, and more: would be considered wealthy. In most of those cases, they did not rise to that level, out of poverty, or even from a lower middle class family. That is not to say that a person cannot do this-- only that the odds highly favor those who start off with the advantages that come with having an affluent family. In many, many of these cases, we are talking about generational wealth.


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    A record 62 Black Congressmembers (11.5% of total membership) are serving in the 118th Congress — three more than the 117th Congress. Fifty-nine of those members serve in the House and three serve in the Senate.

    Twenty-seven House members including two Delegates (people representing a United States territory), are Black women.

    Representation of Black Americans in the House is slightly larger than the share of Black Americans in the US: 13% of House members are Black, compared to 12.61% of the US population. Sixty years ago, there were only four Black members in Congress, all serving in the House.
    About 35 years ago, 21 Black members served in the House. None served in the Senate. The number of Black congressmembers has tripled since then.

    Kamala Harris is the first of many: She is the first Black American and first South Asian American serving as Vice President. Vice President Harris served in the Senate beginning in 2017 and was the second Black woman to ever serve in the Senate.

    The 118th Congress is also home to a few firsts. Rep. Maxwell Frost is the first Gen Z member and only Afro-Cuban in Congress. Rep. Summer Lee is the first Black woman elected to the House from Pennsylvania.
    New York’s Rep. Hakeem Jeffries is the first Black person to lead a major political party in Congress.
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    https://usafacts.org/articles/heres...ades until Black,more than the 117th Congress.


    While the election of Barack Obama can be seen as our society's crossing of a threshold, it would be foolhardy to believe that means that race has ceased to be an issue. Just look at the backlash we have seen, beginning immediately, to Obama's election. It is not just about racking up "firsts," in various categories. There is still a lot of skittishness about putting black people in charge. Granted, we have made progress-- not that long ago, a black NFL quarterback, was a curious oddity. That progress, however, we should take that as encouragement to continue, not as a sign that we should "dismantle the blackness." We still have further to go: note that black Head coaches, in the NFL, are still a rarity.


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    I honestly thought that the release of the “tucker tapes”, where the talking heads were admitting such, and basically calling their listeners rubes, would be their end. But in true Cult of Trump fashion, their ratings didn't even go down 1/10 of a point, and the rubes still use Faus News as a source of truth.

    Truth has no place in the right wing.
     
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  4. Joe knows

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    And do you think the answer to this societal shortcoming is Marxism or Communism. Do you believe this justifies making laws based on race?
     
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    Your two sentences, ask different questions. The answer to the first, is "no." The answer to the second, would depend on the particulars of the law, to which you would be referring.
     
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    No, it does not.

    18 USC 1924
    (a)
    Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

    There is no indication that Biden or Pence KNEW they had those documents.

    And, in fact, once it was discovered they had the documents they were returned.

    And we can return to the topic once you stop spreading misinformation on this topic.
     
  7. Joe knows

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    I don’t believe making race based laws is ever the answer. The precedent in doing so is not a door you want to open up.
     
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    I believe that Pence done so unknowingly. He returned them shortly after finding them. But you can’t tell me that Biden had them for 5 years unknowingly. I’m not the one spreading misinformation. I’m exposing the bias of those who believe this DOJ isn’t a political hit mob. They’re a fascist ran DOJ period
     
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    And there it is. You've made up your mind and no one can tell you differently. No matter what the evidence actually says.
     
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    What evidence do you have that suggests Joe didn’t know about the documents?
     
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    What evidence do you have that suggests Joe did ?
     
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    Here's the thing, if you want to accuse someone of a crime it is up to YOU to provide the evidence.
    No one has to prove "innocence" it's up to the accuser to prove guilt.

    So the ball is back in your court. Since 18 USC 1952 states that the person must KNOWINGLY take the documents, what evidence do you have that Biden or Pence KNOWINGLY had the documents?
     
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    Pretty easy to prove. There is nothing in my house that has been there for five years that is not known to me. Specially in my garage. That area of the house that Biden himself has said is where his beloved car is. There is no way he didn’t know about it.
     
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    No they were not

    Your claim is fiction and not accurate
     
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    It is a political belief and numpersticler talking point it is not a fact
     
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    White supremacy is merely a belief held by a few people.

    How will a revolution end that?
     
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    Yeahright. Fox. They admitted they lie, and lied for Trump and his “corrupt election” crap. But the “base” will never learn.

    Who? Where? What is the “Marxist” policies they’re advocating? Opposition to racism is a dirty, filthy communist plot, right? RIGHT?

    There are no communists in government. NONE.
     
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    Come on. From what I’ve seen you have no idea what Marxism or communism is. (Why do you capitalize “Communism”?)
     
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    What is? That blacks are not as financially well off as whites? Would you like me to produce the statistics-- and will you then accept them?

    Or did you mean that the idea that blacks aren't an inferior race, is the non-factual talking point?
     
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    Your fallacy is that disparate outcoomes prove a political point such as oppression or supremacy.

    They do not
     
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    Again, that is not proof of a damn thing. You are not Joe Biden. You do not live in his house. You don't know anything about his house. To make a claim about what Biden did (or did not) know based on YOU and YOUR house is silly in the extreme.
     
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    Then how do you explain the disparate outcomes?
     
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    I dont
    There often is no explanation and it is so massively complex that no one ellse can either
     
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    What, then, explains them, in your opinion?
     
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    It really isn't that massively complex.

    The greatest indicator of success in life is where you start.

    If you start off in a well to do neighborhood with rich or upper middle class family you are far more likely to do better financially than someone who starts off in a poor neighborhood with a lower income family. That is just a fact.

    The fact is that, on average, white people start off in a better economic situation than blacks. That is just a fact.

    So that explains the disparate outcomes...the question now is what causes the disparate starting situations? Well that's simple, it's based on the disparate outcomes of the previous generation.

    To think that the historical treatment of blacks in this country does not factor into this is just willfully turning a blind eye to the situation.
     

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