Maui Forest Fire: We need to change the Global Warming narrative

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who?
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you seriously just cut my post then replied to it as if that was my comment?

    stop snipping posts out of context, thanks
     
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  3. kriman

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    Read my words. I said "I would be suspicious of any article which says that."
     
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  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was aware of that. Those complaining about human behavior are not doing anything different.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Industry doesn't produce what is not in demand.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is the claim:

    "The fact that the Earth has been warming for over a century DUE to human activity has been scientific consensus for three decades."

    Those that believe that producing greenhouse gases is a problem are not changing their lifestyle; they are asking government to force others to change. My point is that this feigned concern for the planet is nothing more than rebleating what politicians fed them. Meanwhile, they still commute in their single occupancy vehicles and stop for some drive thru on the way.
     
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    no need to snip my post
     
  8. Golem

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    Those that believe that producing greenhouse gases is a problem changing their lifestyle will make little to no difference. We need those who DON'T believe the above to change theirs, if we are to make a dent. And we don't do this by forcing them. We do it by making it appealing to change. And especially by making it less profitable for businesses that don't make it appealing to stay in business.
     
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    I watched the video. At least most of it. I don't think it will work. It takes a big cloud to cool the earth...or even a coral reef. And block out the sun while going solar?
     
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    This fire wasn’t because of the hoax of global warming. Get a grip.
     
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    You
     
  12. kriman

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    Why should we believe them when they don't believe it enough to be an example for all of us? Frankly, I don't believe they believe it themselves.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears as though you want to use government to force manufacturers to change their business model. This has already been done and now, manufacturing is done in China, where there are no regulations and they dump more pollutants into the environment than if we just left US companies alone.


    Those with a genuine concern are walking the walk.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are missing my point.

    For those taking the position that human behavior is a main factor in global warming, but still engage in said behavior, either they don't believe their own claims or they just don't care.

    I ride motorcycles and just got new grips. Thanks.
     
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    Right! It was because of the REALITY of Global Warming
     
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    I thought you researched the validity of your arguments. That statement is not even close to true.
     
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    Global warming cannot be refuted as we are living between ice ages. Only the level of impact from human behavior can be argued. Those taking the position of human behavior being a main factor, engage in said behavior. That means that they they don't believe their own claims or that they don't really care.
     
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    Perhaps a few new members will fall for that.
     
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    The most interesting feature of Hurricane Dora was that it crossed the International Date Line and became Typhoon Dora. That is a very rare occurrence.
     
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    Aren't you a bit "grown up" to need handholding? Where have good old "personal responsibility" conservatives gone?

    In any case, "example" for WHAT? Did you even READ the post you responded to? Obviously not!
     
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    1000%!!! Any business that profits from creating AGW will have to start making some changes.
     
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    These fires on Maui are a direct result of abandoned plantations and non native species. The end.
     
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    I held my belief about AGW before it became a political issue. Nothing I have seen since has changed it. If anything, people like you are the problem. You appear to believe it because you are supposed to believe it. It certainly is not based on knowledge of the subject matter. Or possibly, you believe it because of the fictional scientific community consensus.
     
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    The global warming hoax has nothing to do with the fire in Hawaii.
     
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    Global warming is a politically motivated hoax.
     

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