McCarthy is out (210-216), how the media reacted immediately

The sex predator is hard core trump cult member.
The Dems voted for the great show the Republicans are about to take to the next level.
Get your popcorn.

 

There are going to be many FIRSTS in the next five years. This is simply fodder for the really big stuff climbing up you leg

 

LoL.
No he would never sink to speaker.
It's beneath his ego.

 

trump loves trump.
Nothing else.

 

Matt has a fan

 

However, as noted by Illinois Democratic Rep. Sean

It is usually inadvisable to use the word "never," and this case is no exception to that rule. To be honest, I'd initially had a similar feeling about this but, depending on who's interpretation you believe, Trump either has or perhaps has not, ruled this out.

This is actually the funny thing, that I mean to most emphasize, in my post: the exact same Trump quote--

<Snip>
“A lot of people have been calling me about speaker,” Trump said Wednesday morning outside a New York City courthouse for the third day of New York Attorney General Letitia James’ $250 million civil fraud trial against him. “All I can say is we will do whatever is best for the country and other Republican Party and people.”

He added, however, that he is focused on winning back the presidency.
<End>


-- which NBC calls "not ruling out being the new House Speaker,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna118794?bshm=rime/2


The Hill interprets as Trump "rules out run for Speaker."

<Snip>
“Lot of people have been calling me about Speaker, all I can say is we’ll do whatever is best for the country and for the Republican Party,” Trump told reporters at a Manhattan courthouse, where a fraud trial involving his business empire is taking place.

Asked about Republicans floating his name as a potential Speaker, Trump said he’s focused on his 2024 presidential campaign, where is the front-runner for the GOP nomination.

“My focus is totally on that. If I can help them during the process, I’ll do it. But we have some great people in the Republican Party that could do a great job as Speaker,” Trump said.
<End Snip>

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...-him-as-mccarthy-replacement/amp/?bshm=rime/2



Several other sources, including Newsweek, quoted here, point to a problem with the Trump as Speaker scenario, even if he has changed his mind, since the last time the idea came up:

<Snip>
However, as noted by Illinois Democratic Rep. Sean Casten, the GOP may have already blocked any attempt to elect Trump as House Speaker.

"I would direct your attention to rule 26(a) of the House Republican Conference rules for the 118th Congress," Casten on wrote on X while sharing the GOP's rules which state that a member of the Republican Leadership "shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed."
<End Snip>


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-house-speaker-gop-kevin-mccarthy-1832074?amp=1?bshm=rime/2


A similar provision exists, in the rules for the entire House.

As Trump has shown us, however, rules were made for breaking (or, in this case, at least for changing).

 

It's beneath trump.
I stand by it.
But, I agree on the absolute word never.

 

Beneath the man who appears with laser beams, coming from his eyes, in one of his digital trading cards' many "colorful" depictions?
On that score, I am afraid I must disagree.

 

Ok.

He won't be speaker.

 

I didn't say that he would. In fact, I gave the concrete reason that, while isn't insurmountable, presents a real obstacle to Trump's Speakership: the rules about anyone indicted for significant felonies, needing to step aside.

Your "guarantee," OTOH, that Trump won't be Speaker, is meaningless. And your reason-- that it is "beneath him"-- is patently false. If he sees it as benefitting him, there is evidence that Trump is willing to stoop. I'd cited the hokey, digital trading cards; that is hardly the only example. Even The Apprentice was a silly, stupid, not the least bit elevated, production. So, even if Trump doesn't become Speaker, which would be the higher probability guess, your reasoning is clearly faulty.

I bet, at one time, you had said, "Trump won't be the Republican nominee," or at least, had given your worthless guarantee, that "Trump won't be President." Or am I wrong-- have you never insisted on your expectation of a future occurrence, and been incorrect? I would find that hard to believe.

As far as I am aware-- though by all means, fill me in, if this is not true-- you have absolutely zero qualifications to "know" Trump's thinking, or feelings about anything, and no more comprehensive basis to infer these, beyond what is available in the public domain, to us all. Or is he a pen pal of yours?

Funny, that you have that in common with Trump, though: after your making of a statement which can be backed up with nothing, outside of your intuition, i.e., is no more than your guess, you nevertheless-- when I merely say that this occurring, is not an impossibility-- double down on treating your opinion, as a hard fact. I see that the Donald is not the only one, with an inflated idea of their abilities.

 

I could stand in the desert and feel safe in saying ¨No rain today!"
Even the Republican party is that far gone yet that it would change the rule.
Not yet.

 

I think you are vastly misreading this.

The Democrats are currently in the minority. They are in no way obligated to support a GOP speaker during a motion to vacate. They are doing what any minority party would do because in the upcoming speaker election they can put forth Hakeem Jeffries as their candidate. The Ds did not ask ******* Gaetz to do what he did. He did that all on his own.

McCarthy has noone but himself to blame for his pre-programmed fall from grace.

 

That handful is all that is left to understand how federal government is destroying the nation. I have little hope for us.

 

Of the 4 Ds not there, 1 D seat is vacant and two were away because of deaths: Mary Peltola's husband died in an accident and Pelosi is in San Francisco for Feinstein's wake and funeral.

Also, it should be noted that close to the end of the voting it was 10 Rs against McCarthy and then 2 of them switched their votes.

 

In doing so, he is admitting that Rs cannot govern and is blaming the Ds for not pulling the Rs out of the mud once again.

 

she is too old isn't she and doesn't need the Venmo money

 

My only point is McCarthy had 126 republicans go along with him on avoiding the government shutdown, Gaetz had only 8. Hence, McCarthy relied on the democrats less in the amount of votes needed from them than Gaetz who had to rely more on the democrats, the amount of votes needed from them to get his resolution passed. Whereas McCarthy needed only 92 democrats to avoid a government shutdown, Gaetz needed 208.


Perhaps relied is the wrong word, needed may be better. Neither would be successful without democratic help. Only McCarthy needed their help a lot less than Gaetz.

 

The sexual abuser's "love" for the nation whose certified democratic elections and system of jurisprudence he attacks earns him praise from Vladi Putin who must have been gleeful at the Loser's goons' assault upon outnumbered police in his failed attempt to overthrow a certified U.S. election.

Putin Goes Full MAGA: Welcomes Trump’s Ukraine Plan​

 

Here you go, just seen this:

House devolves into angry round of retribution following McCarthy’s ouster

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-devolves-angry-round-retribution-235318118.html

 

Democrats sided with a Trumpster. That’s bad.

 

A minority of anarchists flaunting their GOP labels are now in the ascendency in the House in an internalization of January 6th's insipid frolics.

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Democrats could have held their noses and saved McCarthy, but his unilaterally (after he failed to muster House support) initiating a meritless, hyper-partisan "investigation" into presidential high crimes and misdemeanors on behalf of Loser Trump raised an ungodly stench.

McCarthy set the partisan standard, and Democrats reciprocated.

A serious question now arises as to whether Republicans' focus will be upon governance of the nation or consumed by internecine rancor.

Loser Trump has championed government-by-vendetta.

 

It looks like a lot of infighting over the next few days, perhaps weeks with talk of expelling Mace and Gaetz from the conference, of withdrawing from the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus which came up with the compromise to avoid a government shutdown.

Lots and lots of infighting will follow. No one in their right mind would want the speakership in my opinion. Not with the MAGA factions basically holding anything and everything hostage that they don’t support or want. Especially not with the rule that one lone member can bring up the resolution to vacate.

As I said, either to you or someone else. If I was part of the 210, I’d tell Gaetz and the other 7, the entire MAGA faction, you caused this chaos, now fix it on your own. By yourself. No help from us. Now how about a vendetta like that against the MAGA faction. The only problem is Gaetz and company can’t fix it.

We’ll have to wait and see what happens. But McCarthy brought this on himself by agreeing and kneeling, ceding to every whim of the MAGA faction.

 

Grandpa Felony Fingers raping his staffer and then having his 'election' rigged by the corrupt FBI/CIA? And now trying to jail his opponent that is leading him in the polls?

Negotiations should have been ongoing the entire time. A year ago, Ukraine had surprised Russia and had them on their back foot, that was the time to press for settlement.

So Bibed Joe wants $24B in additional funding to fund the stalemated war in Ukraine being fought between two corrupt systems of Oligarchy, both sides of which have bribed the Bidens. We need to reduce our bloated budget, so need 3/1 cuts in other spending to offset. What is the $72B in cuts Bribed Joe is suggesting to pay for this additional funding of the bloody stalemate between Ukraine/Russia?

 

I would rephrase it as "Gaetz expected the Dems to vote the way the opposition always vote in such a case, whilst McCarthy was, perhaps, hoping the Dems would do him a favor".
But more to the point, he was hoping less Repubs would side with Gaetz, otherwise he might not have challenged him.

These are useless speculations anyway.

 

Yes.
Republicans will never take responsibility for stuff they do.
Unless it's reducing government revenue or building a wall.