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Because they were only guidelines. They had no force of law. Relying on federalism Trump let each state set up and run its own covid response. Trump was initially critical of Gov . Kemp for re opening too much too fast, yet under federalism didn’t impose a federal standard upon any state.

 

they were the Presidential guidelines, before Trump, those meant something

 

how quickly the right forgets



"*** In states with evidence of community transmission, bars, restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed."

"The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

"30 days to slow the spread"

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...3.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

If you have a job they were trying to force you to get one by trying to force your employer to either make you get tested once a week or have the vaccine.

But much like his unconstitutional scheme to purrloin money from the public purse around Congress to give away to people who owe student debts.... That pesky old Constitution stood in the way of his fascist actions again.

 

if the business wanted to keep their government contract during a pandemic, they had to keep their employees safe, reduce the risk of them dying from covid

they employee could get test, or work from home or take unpaid leave durign the pandemic or get a religious exemption

as I said, they should have been able to have the employee sign a waver that if they got covid, they would not be paid time off or something instead, why should the employer have to take the financial risk, and insurers should charge extra for the unvaxed (the precedent was already set with smokers)

 

Actually very few of us would oppose a degree of separation of church and state in this country. Lauren Boebert is wrong on this issue.

 

Why? The vaccine did not prevent the spread of the disease or prevent one from getting it. The mandates in this case did trample upon the constitutional rights of Americans for no legitimate reason. It was all about control….

 

~ Most disturbing is the FDA & CDC were aware that the mRNA shot did not induce sterilizing immunity . Dr. Deborah Birx admits this in her book . Robert Kennedy Jr. also confirmed this in his book.

 

I don't know where you get your information from but that is not accurate.

He and his administration attempted to unconstitutionally force private employers to either test employees once a week or to make their employees get vaccinated.

Clearly a fascist ultimatum that he was trying to force private employers to do.

So no it was not JUST employers with a government contract.

It seems that pesky old Constitution is always getting in that old fascist way of imposing his dictates and mandates.

You may now consider yourself more fully informed on this topic. You're very welcome

 

Are you suggesting we should close off the galleries and the rotunda to the public forever?

 

They were exactly that, guidelines. They were not decrees nor executive orders. Red states treated them as he intended while blue states imposed them as their own emergency orders upon their populations.

 

yes, they were what Trump told the country were his official recommendations, his guidelines for the pandemic

if you're saying Trump gave bad guidance to the country during Covid, we agree

 

maybe your employer treated you different than mine... guess that would show it was not mandated, but a choice of your employer

 

but it did reduce hospital stays and length of illness.... which is why I brought up the unpaid leave if refused to get vacinated

no vaccine acts like a condom, none, all they do is train your body to recognize the virus if\when you do get it, after that, it's up to our immune systems

this virus replicates in the lungs fast, it spreading is a limitation of the immune system, not the vaccine

 

How am I or your employer treated either one of us is completely irrelevant.

The point is Biden tried to force private employers to do something, and unsurprisingly due to the unconstitutional nature of his would-be dictator mandate... The courts slapped him down. So of course it wasn't mandated because he was unable to do so despite his best efforts.

Much like they did with his attempt to circumnavigate Congress and purloin the public purse unconstitutionally.

 

There was once a time when vaccines were actually useful at preventing transmission to a high degree.

Do you know of any other vaccines that work by altering the human DNA?

 

you made it relevant, I lived it, so I know what I speak, if your employer treated you different, then that is relevant

you mean like republicans faith based initiatives, that set a precedent

Congress gave up that power when they let other groups decide whos loans were forgiven, just like Congress gave up the power to decide which drugs are banned

 

I said no such thing.

What I did was corrected your inaccurate information that you were trying to present to the board here.

Your claim that the Biden administration's attempt to force employers to either make employees take the vaccine or to be tested on a weekly basis....... But only if they had a government contract..... Is categorically false.

He was attempting to mandate to private employers what they must do with their employees. An absolutely fascist overreach.

 

my information was accurate, as I lived it, if your employer treated you different, then let us know

employers could do it anyways, but that was their choice


what I said was fact

"Companies mull ending government contracts over vaccine mandate"

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/31/government-contracts-vaccine-mandate-517857

 

Hard to forget something where democrats are still making people wear masks.

Did we end at the 30 day mark or no? Pretty sure it lasted over 2 years yeah?

Besides, all of those plans were drafted by Birx, who was the person tasked with running the WH response team.

Take it up with her if you don't like it.

 

if a business wants to require masks, that is up to them

as for Trump's reopen guidelines, no State ever met that criteria

Trump took over the task force and micromanaged it, so those guidelines are on him, had he left them alone and let them do it, yep, he could have blamed it on them

 

I don't see "shut down the country for two years except for strip clubs, liquor stores, walmart, Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsome, and force people to get an unproven vaccine" anywhere in the document you linked.

 

Trump's reopen guidelines were never met, may never be, Trump gave bad advice to the country

"3 phases of the Trump reopen guidelines"

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/openingamerica/

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...ening-Up-America-Again.pdf?mod=article_inline

 

Bull.

It says 30 days.

perhaps you should try reading it.

 

There are no requirements for re-opening in the document because the document gives suggestions, not ultimatums.

It is clearly, if you'd bother reading it before linking it, a suggestion to limit certain activities for 30 days.

There is nothing in there with any requirement benchmarks for reopening anything.