Military officers want a new investigation

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I have done more than visit visit patriots question 911 web page.

    In fact I joined it as I did press for 911 truth, pilots for 911 truth, educators for 911 truth, architects and engineers for 911 truth and so on.

    The point being they have no experts they let anyone and their brother join up and the result is a bunch of no bodies posing as experts.

    You believe that the offiical story of 911 was a fraud you cannot see that it is and there is a difference. You nor any of the idiots on those websites has ever produced evidence showing it is a fraud nor can they.

    Science does not support your claim it was a fraudulent story. Science refutes you every time as has been consistently shown on this thread. In fact it is you ignoring science and scientific fact. One of the first rules is that a claim must be supprted by evidence which YOU ignore.
     
  2. genericBob

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    Major smoking gun evidence here
    the "collapse" of WTC7 includes 2.25 sec of free fall acceleration, and this has been documented. So now, you try to negate the evidence rather than understand what it points to. I'm truly sorry about the state of affairs here, its a sad commentary on humanity.

    You alleged that because you were allowed to commit fraud and claim you were an expert, you then attempt to discredit the whole body of experts who have played by the rules and indeed to have licenses, advanced degrees & experience such to be able to speak with authority in their chosen fields.

    Can you brush aside the work of David Chandler, Johnathan Cole, & many others who have professional credentials in their fields and have made statements that challenge the "hijacked airliners used as weapons" story.

    So what do you have for alleged proof
    that airliners were indeed hijacked and
    used as weapons? for starters, where
    are the airliners? what happened to the planes?
     
  3. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I am evading nothing you are in fact stating a falsehood. WTC7 did not collapse at free fall speed period and it is not documented. You have consistently made that false claim without providing any such documentation much less evidence.

    Maybe you missed the point of my little fraud: which is the people on those websites ARE NOT experts as you claim..

    I cannot only brush them aside they are fools and have been debunked and proven wrong with evidence.

    The proof is overwhelming and publically available the burden is on you to provide evidence to the contrary
     
  4. genericBob

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    as for proof that it is documented
    that is the 2.25 sec free fall acceleration
    see NIST NCSTAR 1A page 46 fig 3-15

    can you read?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it is not documented or proven whatsoever yes I can and you are stating proven falsehoods.

    NIST makes no claim of free fall speed who is having trouble reading????????????
     
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    Correction "free fall speed"
    really its FREE FALL ACCELERATION.

    You can sit there an claim anything you want, however
    the graph on page 46 of the report on WTC7 states
    that for 2.25 sec the building dropped at 9.8 m/s^2
    now you can say whatever you want about this, but
    the facts are there.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that you refer to is not free fall.
     
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    Please do enlighten us all
    with your explanation as to what is different
    about the fall of WTC7 during that 2.25 sec
    interval, why is it different from free fall acceleration?
     
  9. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    No he doesnt have an interest in what experts in their fields who dont accept the government and the medias version of historic events have to say.only what the media and our corrupt government institutions and our corrupt school systems say no matter how absurd and redicules they are and how their lies have been debunked time and time again over the years.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    thats the understatment of the year.Independent investigaters not employed by the government do the best kind of investigating.if your a member of congress or government official who speaks out on the corruption of the government and say their investigation was a joke,your lucky if the ONLY thing you lose is your job instead of your life.

    our government has a long history of bumping off people who come out and criticise the investigations findings of the government so of course the BEST investigations into a crime like this,are ALWAYS going to come from independent investigaters not on the governments payroll. americans have been conditioned that we live in a free country when in fact,our country because of our government,is the most corrupt country of them all and in reality,a facist dictatership.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    especially since half of them turned up alive afterwards.:roll::roflol:
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    thats why the OCTA'S are never objective and go into it only seeing what they WANT to see.
     
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    Untrue.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Amazing how many truthers are STILL claiming that...
     
  15. genericBob

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    See post 133 of this thread,
    Question, why has the opposition
    not answered as to what proper definition
    needs to be applied to that 2.25 sec of acceleration by WTC7 ?
     
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    "Opposition"?

    Asked and answered. Ignoring the answer won't change it.
     
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    what "answer" did anybody state a reason why the graph
    contained in the NIST report doesn't show 2.25 sec of
    acceleration, that is the acceleration of gravity?

    In any such measurement, there will be anomalies
    data points that because of instrumentation error,
    noise, or whatever, there are imperfections in the data,
    real researchers learn to deal with it. Nit pickers will
    always at least try to find a way to discredit valid data.
     
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    It does show it. Note that what you are trying to claim didn't happen except as an average.
     
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    Just for sake of argument, if the observed acceleration
    of 2.25 sec at 9.8 m/s^2 was an average, what could cause
    this phenomenon? Should we expect fires & chaotic damage
    to produce such a result as was observed?
     
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    Yes. That's exactly what we can expect.
     
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    So you buy it completely that is the official story
    about how WTC7 was on fire and had damage
    from the towers throwing off rubble, ( etc .... )
    and the result of the fire & damage, was the
    fall of WTC7 exactly as observed and you believe
    all is as it should be?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Why do you keep going in circles asking questions you have had the answer to for months?
     
  23. Hannibal

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    That's what the FDNY reported. Yes, I believe them.
     
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    Appeal to authority
    rather than consult your own common sense
    & data that is available to anyone.

    oh well ......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDHN1gBkx0M
     
  25. Hannibal

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    No, I believe the evidence of the testimony of the responders on the scene. That's not appealing to authority, that's evidence.
     

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