Mockery of Religion

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by mbk734, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Thats strictly in your imagination since its not part of the definition of atheist. Please consult your dictionary.
     
  2. William Rea

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    Yes, that is another reason why I mock you. Well spotted.
     
  3. William Rea

    William Rea Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I have never taken credit for the creation of the diversity of species however, I did have some small part to play in the forming of some new life.

    You have to leave your Mom's basement to do that kind of thing though.
     
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    William Rea Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that you are arguing with a politicised religious entitlement culture that has been in place for hundreds of years.

    They won't relinquish the entitlement overnight, the boohoos will come thick and fast but, the boohoos are a sign that it is working.
     
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    Why do you get so upset on behalf of your almighty god? Is it not big enough to be above mockery?
     
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    You don't have enough faith to be an atheist do you. You should write a book about that.
     
  7. Kokomojojo

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    You mock theists because atheists are hypocrites? Thats a odd approach.
     
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    Sorry that I am not religious enough for your taste.
     
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    That is the definition of atheist. It isn't a religion.
     
  10. Kokomojojo

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    I was just accused of not having enough faith to be an atheist! Hows that for a chart topper? :rolleyes:
     
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    Religion is not the same as theism
    Religion is not the same as atheism

    please stop trying to insult everyones intelligence
     
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    You claimed atheism is a religion. It is not.

    Stop posting stupid ****.
     
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    Well then that's a contradiction. He couldn't use the term "theism" because it wouldn't have worked with his routine. It's not that he "blew it", he was doing what works for him. He was also obviously targeting the Christian religion.

    You're conflating "morals" with "religion". One does not require religion to hold moral beliefs. In fact there are many aspects of religion I personally find immoral. And some of those are why I reject religion.
     
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    You are correct that there are religions that don't believe in God, but they don't identify as "atheists," they identify with their religion. Atheists in the West don't believe in God and they stereotypically aren't religious.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The practice of atheism or any philosophy is a religion, the arguments presented by atheists get so over the top foolish I apologize for using shorthand with the assumption people are following the course of the argument.
     
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    Thats reversed though, the morals create the religion, the religions creates the culture. In other words religion is the result of morals and beliefs. Granted it may seem the other way around when a person is born into a religion and beliefs were dictated by parents etc. As an adult we reformat our religion casting off what we do not believe, the resulting synthesis is our revised religion. You only revised your religion.
     
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    Using memes to falsely represent the matter only proves how weak your case is.

    Yes I know you think they rewrote the dictionary and all its definitions just for atheists.

    An atheist just admitted atheists have faith, and thats as religious as it can get :winner:
     
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    How can I mock you if you are going to mock yourself so effectively?
     
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    you should make up your mind, in the other thread you think I am a theist in this one an atheist, which is it going to be?
     
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    I'm not an adept of mockery at an individual level, even though I'm practicing myself now and then what I'm preaching against.
    Must be your client's work...[​IMG]

    We were talking about the influence of mockery on those who sincerely believe the message. "Message" here is the way people understand an ideology, a system of beliefs.
     
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    One doesn't practice atheism. It is simply the lack of belief in a deity.

    It is not a religion. Stop posting dumb ****.
     
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    This is a fallacious statement. The conclusion is based on unproven premises. Prove that atheists are dogmatic. Prove that atheists have religious views. Please clarify if you're referring to all atheists, or only to those that are, in your opinion, dogmatic and religious (provided you manage to prove there are such atheists, of course).

    Definition of religion:
    The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

    Religion doesn't require belief in a personal God. It requires belief in supernatural. Both Buddhism and Jainism are based on the belief in the existence of supernatural. Science is not.

    The main difference between science and faith resides in the falsifiability of scientific theories. No elements of worship here.
     
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    Oh you come to the forum with the 'belief' there is singular definition for religion? Seriously? Granted that may be the definition of religion your particular religion/sect wants to use because it fits atheist politics.

    WOW look at that, there are several definitions for religion! :deadhorse:

    So if atheists dont have religion then they are free to practice mine, or do you seriously believe that everything an atheist does in life is an incontrovertible fact? Seriously?

    Science is a secular religion. Falsibility? Really? Lets see theres the big bang scientific belief purely based on faith of flimsy evidence.

    Science cant tell us where the matter (or energy) came from that went bang! LOL

    So now what you want people to enter the land of ridiculous, is that where you want to take this? Not so fast.

    If the atheist definition were the correct definition capitalism, communism, nationalism would not be regarded as religion neither would jainism or buddism, so prove to us a 'religion' requires 'supernatural' since by definition there is no such requirement.

    :oldman:

    Ok I proved it, strawman time? :cool:
     
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    Atheism is by definition, not s religion. Science, by definition is not s religion.

    Stop posting stupid ****.
     
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    So...you don't know the difference between literal and figurative meaning. Figures.

    Your post is a shining example of how not to defend one's position. The moment you decided to post the different definitions of "religion" is the moment you lost the debate. You can't argue that atheists are religious like all the theist religious people, because "religious" now has several, different meanings.

    Oh well...you might want to stick with Oxford Dictionaries from now on, like I do.

    Funny that you ask me to prove my points, when you can't prove yours.

    I'm convinced that everything everyone does in life in an incontrovertible fact. What's done cannot be undone.
     
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