however faith is, and you nor anyone else can explain where all that matter/energy came from so you/science are without facts, only beliefs and the faith that your beliefs are correct. That is only one GLARING example that even the most uneducated person can resolve to the correct conclusion, there are hundreds if not thousands more.
? ah yes posting ridiculous memes in a philosophical discussion I am sure everyone is breaking down the atheist church doors to join your religion! Since you want to go ridicule, seems atheists are one gigantic contradiction! Now they have churches and to do what? Preach the benefits of Zero, the God of 'Lack' ? Tell us how can anyone take atheists seriously?
Atheism is the future as more people open their eyes. You're a dinosaur Kokomojojo. Young people don't go to church. Atheists don't need God or a preacher to tell them how to live their lives. It is freedom!
Seems like its not the future unless of course you are predicting even more dumbing down of society. Of course atheists dont need a God, they made their own! They worship their God, Koalemos. and
ah so these are figurative in your opinion? explain. Hardly, pointing out your cherry picking and complete disregard for any evidence contrary to your lack of belief system is extremely convincing, in fact its powerful evidence proving you wrong on virtually every point so far, got anything else? I have proven my points, but as usual its met with denial, you made naked unsupported claims, anyone can stand on a soapbox yelping their meaningless rants. we can all play with the oxford eh....
I'm non-religious. I'm concerned with the polarisation between the religious and the non-religious. I get upset, if you can call it that, at anything which makes the world worse. If it is aimed at a god or at specific people or ideas is less relevant to me.
Dont invest your energy, their mockery only serves as cannon fodder to throw right back in their faces. People (including atheists) have the right to any religion they choose as long as they dont injure or damage others outside their religion.
At the moment, beyond the question of , 'why it seems important to you that atheists comply with what you say they should believe, why is that?' I don't believe or care what your beliefs are.
Mockery is most often the tool of a fool. It would appear that the atheist believes this tool to be effective since he is most often the one using it. I see very few instances of where religionists mock the atheist.
Right, so you are going down the line of, 'if you don't know everything you know nothing, the only being that can know everything is the one that was there and he has revealed truth to us'. So, It seems important to you that atheists comply with what you say they should believe, why is that?
Good, so why does it seem important to you that atheists comply with what you say they should believe, why is that?
The mockery most often comes when it is clear that no kind of honest argument is going to come from the deluded politicised religious. If they had better arguments there'd be some kind of debate.
Now, if you'd given it some consideration and really thought about it you could have been consistent and rationally argued that Humanism is a religion, then we would have had a debate. Remember you have said these things at one point in here... 1. 'comprehend simple grammar, logic and reason and with that fail to make a valid case for themselves' 2. 'atheism deals strictly with deity belief which is not required to be religious' However, it now appears to me that it seems important to you that atheists comply with what you say they should believe at whatever particular point in time it is convenient for you in a discussion, why is that?
Me too but, at some point you've got to stop being passive and allowing religion to permeate and poison everything that makes life worthwhile like a disease. I literally have no problem with the vast majority of religious people that I interact with but then, they don't usually speak in bumper sticker platitudes to try to convince themselves of their own doubts.
Confirmation bias is a wonderful way of ignoring evidence and just carrying on believing what you want to believe anyway. That in itself is mockery of the being that you say your creator endowed you with.
Do I? I think sometimes we get so involved in an issue that our idea that something needs to get done somehow outweighs the fact that none of the things we can do actually improve the situation. Just like a disease, sometimes there is no cure, or the best cure is rest. Thinking no further than "stop being passive" is like the person punching the cancer patient arguing "well, at least I'm doing something". That being said, I don't actually advocate inaction. I'm only against the mindless attacks that don't accomplish anything other than antagonising others. It may be that mockery does have a persuasive effect, but I think people often mistake personally resonating with an argument for the argument being persuasive on its own. My guess is that on average it works against us more than for us.
yep, some atheists out here have their fun however these memes really square it up, They dont comprehend they are a religious cult and they dont comprehend the difference between a religion and belief in a deity. and these certain atheists you cant educate because they know it all but cant explain it without a plethora strawmen fallacies as above.
Thats a great paint job and just because I pointed it out in the other thread does not mean I am unaware of it, and there is little to discuss that I can see since it supports my position to the tune of 500%. Feel free to explain why you think its anything else. Maybe you can do better than your rerun replay whining about how atheists are victims being told what to believe strawman, see the meme above with is hilariously correct. IMO he is being cautious in replying to you, a wise man since you fail to comprehend the meaning of religion, in about the same terms as a guy with an axe claiming he didnt murder anyone he just killed the messenger because he didnt like the message while hating murderers. Pretty close to the same flawed logic. glad you are above that Like the overwhelming evidence that I have shown that atheist theology is pretty wacked?
I'd say it's usually pretty clear. If it is not, we'll be happy to explain. There may very well be bad apples in any answers to that, but it'd be unfair to judge any group only by its worst example. I'm not sure what you mean by harnessing evolution.
