MOD ALERT ~ Israel's Weapons of Mass Destruction ?

Rubbish - nonsense / Utter Dreck and the sad fact is that the likes of you would never - NEVER - understand how you've been duped by your thought controllers .

Read my avatar. Go read Socrates .

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@ Marlowe - another excellent reason why ALL nukes should go.

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US plane in 1961 'nuclear bomb near-miss'


A four-megaton nuclear bomb was one switch away from exploding over the US in 1961, a newly declassified US document confirms.

Two bombs were on board a B-52 plane that went into an uncontrolled spin over North Carolina - both bombs fell and one began the detonation process.

The document was first published in the UK's Guardian newspaper.

The US government has acknowledged the accident before, but never made public how close the bomb came to detonating.

The document was obtained by journalist Eric Schlosser under the Freedom of Information Act.

Schlosser told the BBC such an explosion would have "changed literally the course of history".

The plane was on a routine flight when it began to break up over North Carolina on 23 January 1961.

As it was breaking apart, a control inside the cockpit released the two Mark 39 hydrogen bombs over Goldsboro.

One fell to the ground unarmed. But the second "assumed it was being deliberately released over an enemy target - and went through all its arming mechanisms save one, and very nearly detonated over North Carolina," Mr Schlosser told the BBC's Katty Kay.

Only one safety mechanism, a single low-voltage switch, prevented disaster, he said.

The bomb was almost 260 times more powerful than the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The accident occurred during the height of the Cold War between US and Russia, just over a year before the Cuban missile crisis brought nuclear fears to the US's front door.

There has been ongoing speculation ever since, including a 1961 book by former government scientist Dr Ralph Lapp.

The newly declassified document was written eight years after the incident by US government scientist Parker Jones - who was responsible for mechanical safety of nuclear devices.

In it, he comments on and corrects Lapp's narrative of the accident, including listing that three out of the four fail safe mechanisms failed, not five out of six as originally thought by Lapp.

"One set off by the fall. Two rendered ineffective by aircraft breakup," Mr Jones writes. "It would have been bad news in spades."

"One simple dynamo-technology low voltage switch stood between the United States and a major catastrophe."

There has been no official comment to the newly declassified details.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24183879

 

A problem I have with your posts is you write things about Jews doing this or that.
A good thing to always remember: In a room with 3 Jews, you have 4 arguments. There is no uni-mind. They disagree about everything.

 

You misunderstand ,Israel thinks it is not just the Best ,but it is GOD GIVEN,and that the Jewish people deserve Israel ,and are allowed to commit fascist Genocide,because GOD chose them ,and Moses said they were promised by a Non-existent GOD, a Land .

I those times no-one could stand them either ,crickey Egypt , expelled them for their GOD Nutty ways ,and back then that was exceptional ,considering they were slaves.

Israel has NUKES, Israel IS NOT a signatory to the Non-proliferation Treaty ,

Google it yourself as the material is expansive. We call it the Internet.

BTW, could you produce the documents that gives Israel the right to bomb ,shell and assassinate ,anyone or any Nation ,whenever it likes for whatever reason it says???

We prosecuted the Fascist Nazi's ,in the post-War Crimes trials in Nuremburg, for doing exactly what is the Daily modus operandi of ISRAEL ,the Pseudo-Nation ,of US IMPERIALISM .

 

"Israel is considered the national expression of the collective Jewish identity and thus it is a Jewish nation. Zionism believes it was necessary to create a national expression of political sufferage for that identity to prevent us from being wiped out but it was not religious in concept. It was political in concept. It was in fact socialist. It envisioned Jews working in a social collective not a religious one."QUOTE

Oh please take a chill pill ,to say that the Jewish culture isn't religious in its setting up of Israel is stupid ,they resurrected a Ancient dead language ,called Hebrew ,as National Language.

Oh and as far as the UTOPIAN Socialist content to the State of Israel ,Kibbutz ect ,National Socialism has always been reactionary ,and as far as the 20th Century ,lets put some names to NATIONALIST SOCIALIST UTOPIAN MOVEMENTS!

Like that which Israel was established on ,well yes ,STALIN was a great supporter of the setting up of Israel ,in fact without his PERSONAL approval it would not exist .ADOLF HITLER ,another Utopian Socialist ,trying for Nationalist Socialist Solutions, Pol -Pot expressing ,how do you put it, 'National expression of the collective Jewish "Identity". POL POT expressed exactly the same thing withy the MYTHICAL ,A-HISTORICAL ,KHMER Identity in the 20th Century .

At least ,Pol Pot only went back 700years to find his ,National expression of the Khmer identity ,the Zionist Fascist's go back 2000years ,to find theirs.

Sorry a Principality of Rome called Judea ,does not a Nation in any form make!

And then for 2000years Palestine ,and then US Imperialism ,Stalinism and British Imperialism ,says in the UN ,Israel is now a Nation!

Jewish Identity is and can only be RELIGIOUS in its special chosen of God ,Religiousness , as far as being "Socialist", Stalin killed the Socialists\Marxists in the USSR ,they go by the Name of TROTSKYISTS these days !

Scientific NOT Utopian like the Stalinist Trash that were central in forming the Pseudo-Nation, ISRAEL!

Whereas Jewish 'identity"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-...-of-mossad-links-dies-in-israeli-jail/4514806

PS I don't give a Wombat turd as to what you believe ,as anyone who defends Israel's right to exist ,is well BRAINWASHED!

And before you on another RANT ,about the Legitimacy of the Pseudo-Nation of the UN, or that I am "Anti-Semitic" or that the Holocaust {which did happen}against the European WORKING CLASS ,not just Jews.

In fact if one totes up the numbers in Class terms ,out of the 6 million of European Jewery exterminated ,80% were peasants or Workers, As far as dead European Workers ,get this in your head ,with the invasion of the USSR alone 30million dead citizens of the USSR!

Total dead Workers 80 million ,its the Holocaust we call WW2!

Funny how the Extermination of the Workers of the USSR ,never gets the same weight of the "Jewish Holocaust" gee I wonder why ,

PS ,The Zionist movement in Germany was very Supportive of the Nazi Regime, collaborating with its racist based outlook!

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

 

And please make up your mind as you are the one who has said

" America's foolishly elected leadership and their subserviance to AIPAC + other Jewish pressure groups & "Obama + Co., ( + its puppet masters AIPAC)" and contend foolishly that Israel believed bombing Syria was in their best interest yet did not do it.

I think it is you who is being controlled and it isn't by joos or reality.

 

I asked;

Please show us a few nations that believe they not as good or are less than any other and then show us proof of your statement as I believe you are lying.

You replied;

And I'm still asking;

Please show us a few nations that believe they not as good or are less than any other and then show us proof of your statement as I believe you are lying.

 

How to get the Zionist entity to cede it's nukes?

Not a bother.

First you boot out all the Zionist Jews and their shills on every single level of your Gov.

This will probably leave a gaping hole in Federal Gov now, however, that's great, because what you can then do is this amazing thing called replace them with American non Jews/Zionists who will work for and on behalf of Americans first, and not Israel and Jewry.

Call it taking back your Government or something novel like that. See how it works out for a decade or two.

Having ensured that you have rooted them all out and replaced them with good and accountable men, you then simply have those men cut off the free stuff, welfare, military support and everything, from the state.

Not a penny more.

In the meantime, Europe does the same thing, takes back their Gov's and their own destiny.

Not a pence more from Europe, not a single submarine.

NOTHING.

Having done that you simply ban all trade and every trade with them.

See the sanctions placed on Iran for NOT having nukes?

Like that but everyone would be required to refuse to trade anything at all with them.

Let them trade sand.

Pretty soon the Zionist entity would be empty of all but the most deranged Jewish partisan, as the rest of them would not be able to cope with it.

They would look to leave Israel.

Too late though.

They will have 'chosen' their land.

And on that land they so shall live.

And only on that land. Shunned by the World.

And due to them being given a new red alert status in keeping with their spying and subversion, access to the US, Europe and everywhere would be - DENIED.

 

Was that supposed to rhyme or be sung to a tune of some kind Jack?

 

How can Israel do anything that Real historically formed Nations do ,when it is a Pseudo-nation?

Can't have Pseudo National pride now can you?

If Israel was a Real historically formed Nation and not an AbomiNATION ,formed by Stalinism ,Imperialism thru the UN,then National pride could be talked about .

PS, could you cease calling the Nation of Palestine ,Israel!

As Israel is a Lie!

Lets see ,the thing that all defenders of Israel have a Problem with ,HISTORY, one example where a Nation thought itself inferior to another ,lets see .um um um .

India's relationship to British Imperialism comes to mind as the Indian Nation had real problems with seeing itself inferior for a long time !

Crickey ,fair dinkum ,the Australian National flag still has the "motherlands " flag top left hand corner. Their you go.

Oh and not to mention when 23 distinct Nations voluntarily joined in Equality ,USSR 1917!

UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS ,no war all equal. Not one nation Special or better ,when the Working Class forms Unified equal National federations .

The civil War started when the Imperialist nations attempted to Smash the USSR ,by trying to bring back the TSAR's Regime. With the White Armies of Counter-revolution ,that's when the Blood of Nations flows!

 

What do you mean?

 

It appears on screen like a poem with stanzas and everything. Look at it. As for rhyming, this is pretty close;

"Let them trade sand

Pretty soon the Zionist entity would be empty of all but the most deranged Jewish partisan, as the rest of them would not be able to cope with it.

They would look to leave Israel.

Too late though.

They will have 'chosen' their land.

And on that land they so shall live.

And only on that land. Shunned by the World."

 

Palestine was never, until recently a nation in the normal sense with borders, a government, a military, monetary unit, tax base and recognized by the majority of the world as a separate country, Israel has enjoyed this status since 1948.

 

I note your reference to that piece of Mass Murdering crap ,called Truman !

The man who used 2 nuclear weapons against a effectively ,defenceless population.Truman was seen as a Intellectual retard by his Colleagues ,and Roosevelt,hated his Guts.He only ended up as Vice -President from cattle trading in the Democrat Party.

They all knew about the Extermination ,by 1942!

And did absolutely nothing about it ,it was not until the RED ARMY of the USSR ,liberated the camps of Eastern Europe that Imperialism became "Concerned " and the Crocodile tears started.

 

Oh dear let me guess you are a student of the Zionist school of Historical falsification,Palestine existed before the British mandate ,open a thing called a Bible or even a Tora ,and you will see the Palestinian people Mentioned ,OLD TESTAMENT ,Stupid don't read its own Book ?!?

I do note that you leave out the Central attribute of any Nation ,called "The People's" that occupy Lands ,excuse me if European\American Jews went home from Israel ,back to Their Homes In EUROPE and America ,to their ROOTS as a PEOPLE!

Then Israel would cease to exist!

And the ARAB peoples of the Middle East who have lived their for millennia ,like the PALESTINIAN PEOPLE of the ARAB ,not European or American ,MIDDLE EAST!

Have you ever actually read the Bible?

Do they have Atlas's in your neck of the woods ,open up the Pages that show different CONTINENTS!

And as far as some Nation devoid of people ,that have borders and recognised by the UN .

We call that a PSUEDO-NATION and an Abomination to Democracy!

 

Isarel was never a Nation and has a 2000 year continuity gap,from being ROMAN ,then Nothing !

Until Stalin ,Truman and Churchill ,came up with Israel from their mass murdering Imperialist\Stalinist Brains =United Nations of US Imperialist Intrigue!

so 34 BC to 1947-8 AD ,bit of a gap don't you think ,all the Zionist crap ,about a "Jewish National Identity " didn't develop until the 19th Century ,co-incident with the development of CAPITALIST IMPERIALISM .

No accident there as Capitalist Imperialism is the needs Of BANKING FINACIAL CAPITAL ,dominance. And historically in Europe and America ,which religious group was lets say central to the FINACIAL \Banking Sector?

That would be the Financial JEWISH BOURGEOISIE!

Israel ,is Pseudo-Nation for the Interests of which CLASS,do you think ?

BTW, prior to Zionist Fascism developing ,most Jews saw themselves as the Citizens of their NATIONS OF BIRTH !

PS, all the "so-called" Jews exterminated in the Ukraine [USSR] were despite what some may think ,CITIZENS OF THE USSR !

30 million of the Citizens of the USSR ,laid down their lives against Hitler ,meanwhile the Jewish Nation was doing what ?

No Israel existed ,in 1904 or 1243 or 1432 now did it ,but the Palestinians were around as a people and a Nation therefore ,funny how you leave people out of the description of Nations ,Governments are not the "people"

 

Vanunu and the Bomb

"This is the first man to tell the world nuclear weapons have arrived in the most troubled region on the Earth, the Middle East. In doing so he's exposed the West's opposition to nuclear proliferation as little more than a sham. Vanunu is banned from talking to foreign media, based on eyewitness testimony, this film is his story."


February 1977 Nuclear Technician Mordechai Vanunu is assigned to work at the top secret Dimona facility. In 1986 he reveals to journalists Oscar Guerrero and Peter Hounam the presence of an underground plutonium plant there. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ben Gurion had commissioned construction of the plant in 1958. Vanunu had made the discovery after 7-years at the plant and had photos to prove his story. Hounam takes Vanunu to The Sunday Times in London, where Nuclear Physicist Frank Barnaby confirms the data, but Mossad is tailing them.

Guerrero arrives in London and tries to sell the story to rival paper The Sunday Mirror. France, Britain and the U.S. had been complicit in the construction under a secret agreement between U.S. President Richard Nixon and Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir. The lonely Vanunu befriends intern Wendy Robbins but she insists that they remain just friends. The discredited story in the Mirror causes the Times to delay their publication. Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Perez forbids Mossad from kidnapping Vanunu on British soil so they spring a honey trap to lure him to Rome.

In Italy Vanunu is abducted and shipped back to Israel but the Times decides to publish in the hopes of protecting his life. The Western powers that had professed a stance of non-nuclear proliferation while collaborating in the construction of Dimona were exposed as hypocrites and yet the press in those countries remained curiously silent on the subject. The Israelis confirm that they have Vanunu in detention but refuses to explain how. Convicted of treason Vanunu was sentenced to 18-years in prison.

[video=youtube;AIBkRDzffak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=AIBkRDzffak[/video]

 

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But what good are your Russian barkings on another country existance when its already exists for decades lol ?

 

My Grandma was born here, both parents, myself and my kids, the history im hearing is from them on their part of my nation's history, that's our identity and no angrey European - regardless of how ignorant he allows himself to be - can ever change that.

 

Focus on the topic, not other members. Further rule violations will result in thread bans.

 

That phrase is only use in resolution 670 with reference to resolution 661 which was fully complied with.

 

Which land was proposed to be partitioned in UNGA REs 181 ? -

Answer =: PALESTINE (


and what was the identity of the people who inhabited that land known as ?

Answer = Their identity documents described them by their respective religions i.e. Palestinian Muslim, /Palestinian-Christian or Druze or Palestinian JEW .. European Jews who migrated/entered the country LEGALLY - had to , after a certain period residence. could + many did apply for PALESTINIAN CITIZENSHIP.

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There are more than one definition of "Nation" see :
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nation

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Full Definition of NATION
1 a (1) : nationality 5a (2) : a politically organized nationality (3) : a non-Jewish nationality <why do the nations conspire — Psalms 2:1 (Revised Standard Version)>

b : a community of people composed of one or more nationalities and possessing a more or less defined territory and government

c : a territorial division containing a body of people of one or more nationalities and usually characterized by relatively large size and independent status

2 archaic : group, aggregation


3: a tribe or federation of tribes (as of American Indians)

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Palestine in c.100CE according to Ptolemy (map by Claude Reignier Conder of the Palestine Exploration Fund)

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Before the influx of Europe's Zionists Jews - the majority of the population was non-Jewish PALESTINIANS

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HUH ? Are all of them hated ? By who?



I was raised nominally as C of E - Anglican -. I don't feel hated .

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