Mom shows them what they need to see

Define “indoctrination” I mean what part of the identified six steps of grooming does that represent?

 

It is.

 

Definitely! Look at the Polynesian cultures that have three and four sexes as a historically accepted part of the culture eg the Mahu of Hawaii. In many of these cultures the “non-binary/ gender different people play a major role in teaching traditional dance etc etc

 

I and many others don't think so and object to the indoctrination.

 

If you can come to terms with your born reality...then you are fine. If you feel the need to surgically mutilate yourself to perpetuate a lie, you are not fine. You have a problem. And this could overlap or extend to those who become addicted to plastic surgery and severely altering themselves through mutilation. I am comfortable believing that those people have a mental disorder.

If however, you are comfortable in your own skin, accept your reality and get on with your life. Like a Rupal or the like, then sure. You are fine.

 

So treating people like decent human beings is indoctrination. Got it.

 

Queers are not decent human beings.

 

So you want to be treated as a not decent human being. I can oblige.

 

A significant percentage of the forum think Trump is mentally ill. Not everyone is MAGA.

 

Who is respecting the Golden Rule, them or you?
Do they actually harm anyone? No.
Do you actually harm anyone with your rhetoric? Perhaps, someone could not get a job, be ostracized or even physically beaten by you or someone listening to you. You are definitely projecting hatred where none need be.
If your hatred is caused by upbringing seek help. These people have done nor will do anything bad to you if you simply ignore their differences and treat them as you treat anyone else. You may even know one without any clue as to their sexual orientation. What would happen if your best friend Mark tells you that he was first named Mary? Do you reject your best friend and all that went into creating that friendship because Mark doesn't have a dick? Are you going to ask every male you meet to whip out their Mr Happy before you'll have a beer with them? I'd advise against that.
If it's self hatred because you were brought up to believe that not being heterosexual is evil while you find yourself wanting to do the very things you have been taught are wrong again seek help.

 

I don't think he's mentally ill. I lean more towards evil immorality.

 

Really? The whole "can't come to terms with the reality of who you are to the point you need to try and mutilate yourself and perpetuate a false reality which you demand everyone else supports so you have a lower chance of killing yourself" isn't a flag to you?

If that's not a mental disorder, not sure then what qualifies.

 

Nope.

You keep trying desperately to turn back to defining my perspective because you don't want to talk facts but rather emotion.

School is NOT the institution to push your LGBTQ agenda on impressionable children.

Trying to justify that grooming is disgusting.

 

You just made my point. Accurately portraying history isn’t a “grooming agenda”. That you think such proves you actually believe kids can be turned gay at the mere mention that someone is gay. Hahahahaha…that is F’ing hilarious. Your belief is 100% emotional. Get a grip.

 

I favor pop psychology "malignant narcissist."

 

Got it.

So you believe children pop out of the womb and immediately know what they are attracted to? Like it's a predefined code and is programmed?

That's a really weird perspective and opinion.

Kids, up to and including college base their sexual attraction and sexual preferences on life experiences and exposure to various aspects of sexuality. When does a person realize they have a fetish? When they get exposed to it.

High school and college kids regularly experiment with various sexual preferences and interests.

Maturing into post pubescent stages absolutley is "taught" to some degree. To deny that's just silly.

So now the question is, should our state sanctioned educational system be a resource for developing this sexuality? Should we be teaching about (and in my opinion "pushing") this sexual preference on kids who are largely already confused and impressionable?

My opinion is no.

 

No one knows their sexual attraction right out of the womb. Silly thing for you to bring up.
I have yet to meet a gay person who said they became gay because someone talked them into it. And neither have you.
Are you saying the only reason you’re not gay is because you weren’t talked into it? Otherwise you would be gay? Weird.

 

I never met anyone who says they had a choice.

 

Not every trans person wants hormone therapy or surgery. Having a logical discussion with someone as misinformed as you are is difficult.

Trans with gender dysphoria giving rise to a wish for surgery may have a mental illness, but not just the desire for surgery.

 

A worldview not shared by many people in this country these days.

 

That is known as decadence.

 

Exactly.

 

Nope.

 

Interesting. That is what I've found about homosexuals. Either they are narcissists or sources of narcissistic supply for a narcissist. Very unhealthy.

 

Who is a trans person that doesn't want to be addressed as or pretend to be the opposite sex to the reality that they are?

Because it sound to me like you are trying to suggest that there are trans people who are not trans.