I found this on RT. I confess to not being up to speed on the whole issue. Apparently, at least from the article, the US is using bully tactics to push Monsanto onto the world. Also, the toxicity of glyphosphates is brought up. Interesting. ~~~~~~~~~~ LINK: http://rt.com/usa/165128-us-pressures-salvador-monsanto-gmo/ As one of the preconditions to authorizing close to $300 million in aid, the United States is pressuring El Salvador to purchase genetically modified seeds from Monsanto instead of non-GM seeds from local farmers. According to Sustainable Pulse, a website covering developments related to genetically modified organisms and sustainable agriculture, the US will reportedly withhold $277 million in aid through the Millennium Challenge Compact if El Salvador refuses to purchase GM seeds from the biotech company Monsanto. The website states that the stalled aid package was originally put on hold in late 2013, when it was revealed that Millennium Challenge Corporation would not deliver funds to the country unless “specific” economic and environmental reforms were made. Apparently, one of those is related to the purchase of GMO seeds. Speaking with Verdad Digital, however, the president of the El Salvadoran Center for Appropriate Technologies (CESTA) criticized the US negotiating position and said the country should back away from its demand. “I would like to tell the U.S. Ambassador to stop pressuring the Government (of El Salvador) to buy ‘improved’ GM seeds,” CESTA president Ricardo Navarro said, adding that the move would hurt the local economy and only benefit US companies. Navarro specifically singled out Monsanto for criticism as well, saying, “There is a harmful corporation on the planet called Monsanto … it is truly disturbing that the U.S. is trying to promote them.” In Europe, too, Monsanto’s GM seeds have garnered criticism. In March, France banned the growth and sale of the company’s insect-repelling maize seed MON 810, just a few days before it was revealed that insects in the US were developing resistance to the crop. The comments from Navarro also arrive as Monsanto is under fire in several South American countries, including El Salvador and Brazil. As RT reported previously, El Salvador passed legislation in September 2013 banning glyphosate, used in Monsanto’s Roundup pesticides, as well as dozens of other agricultural chemicals. Similar proposals are being considered in Brazil, where the country’s prosecutor general recently urged the National Health Surveillance Agency to “reevaluate the toxicity of eight active ingredients suspected of causing damage to human health and the environment,” including glyphosate and seven other chemicals. As for why glyphosate is coming under such heavy scrutiny, new research has indicated that while the chemical is not as dangerous on its own, it becomes extremely toxic to humans once it mixes with natural metals found in soil. Meanwhile, other reports have linked glyphosate to the outburst of a fatal kidney disease that has killed thousands of people in El Salvador and Sri Lanka, and could also help explain similar situations in Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and India.
A Few . from Monsanto’s Roundup Found in 75% of Air and Rain Samples http://ecowatch.com/2014/02/27/monsantos-roundup-found-in-75-of-air-and-rain-samples/ “Roundup herbicide, Monsanto’s flagship weed killer, was present in 75 percent of air and rainfall test samples, according to the study, which focused on Mississippi’s highly fertile Delta agricultural region.” from Weedkiller Glyphosate for GM Crops Pollutes Air, Rain and Rivers across America http://www.globalresearch.ca/weedki...utes-air-rain-and-rivers-across-america/26313 The first report was recently issued on ambient levels of glyphosate and its major degradation product, aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), in air and rain. Glyphosate is the most widely used herbicide in the U.S. from USGS Release: Widely Used Herbicide Commonly Found in Rain ... Glyphosate, also known by its tradename Roundup, is commonly found in rain and rivers in agricultural areas in the Mississippi River watershed, according to two new USGS studies released this month. .
Thanks for the sources I requested. I will go look for the USDA study because a source that uses a "We don't know the effects" next to an author's declaration that it is highly toxic have some credibility issues with me.
Nope. There is no gentic "science" taking place.Science is by necessity independent and reviewable. Anything besides this cannot be considered "science" any more than drawing Tarot cards on the Jerry Springer show, and in many cases can be actively used to work directly against science by masquereding as legitimate when it is anything but, as is the proven track record including things like cigarrettes, leaded-paint, leaded-gasoline, asbestos, DDT etc., all of which had their vauge reassurances artbitrary from the government, rubber stamped willy-nilly by politicians with no qualifications whatsoever, proven to be in bed with the very corporations that want to peddle these products and so have an obviousd confict of interest and are paying them bribes to influence their will. This is the same reason why you don't let OJ Simpson be his own jury. If you don't see why, then this means you don't undrestand what science actually even is in the first place.
I see, the 'because I say so' argument. There have been 0 deaths and 0 illness from GMO yet somehow, because you say so, it is dangerous.
It's not based on my say so at all. As much as I would love to take the credit for inventing the scientific method, I did not. I never said GMO's were dangerous. I said corporate/government pseudo-science is dangerous, and I showed cases in history which prove it. I'm not the one making definitive claims one way or the other. You however just did, but you don't have any factual studies to prove your claim. You need peer reviewable scientific study for that, with all methodology and data available, so other scientists, who don't have the same obvious conflict of interest, can replicate the experiments for themselves. "Fact" sheets from the company that who wouldn't say say otherwise because they want to sell the products, and the politicians they bribe giving them a thumbs up, will not suffice.
Seeds Of Death - Unveiling The Lies Of GMOs [video=youtube;eUd9rRSLY4A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUd9rRSLY4A[/video] . "There is a principle, which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation" .....................................................................................- Herbert Spencer, 1820-1903
Even a cursory Review of this & the proceeding thread on this topic Reveals the utter Lie & Absurdity of this contention The Proceeding thread on this topic may be found here Monsanto Shifts ALL Liability to Farmers http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-us-world-news/173511-monsanto-shifts-all-liability-farmers.html --------------------------- BTW Why, When & by Who, was this thread moved form its original position on the Latest US & World News' ................................. forum & tucked away at the bottom of the page Regional US Politics This & the preceeding thread have always carried the Latest US & World News' ...........................regarding Monsanto & should in all fairness be restored to that forum ...........................Monsanto & the topic of its Maligancies are of "World News" Imprortance Or is it that some of the moderators on Political Forums will attempt to hide or minimalize Facts that Corporations find uncomfortable ? . .
I already told you that the GMO products were the result of successful, replicable scientific experimentation. How else would Monsanto know if the process worked? Then, that data was reviewed by the USDA and found safe for consumption. There have been 0 illness or death from these products and a court found that the GMO patent was viable. If you don't trust the USDA then I suggest you not buy any food at all. Grow your own and don't try to scare others away from the grocery store.
If you can't pronounce the ingredients listed (or in this case, aren't ALLOWED to know what the ingredients even are), then you probably shouldn't be eating it.
This line sounds like one coined by some stuffed Tobacco Company Executive who spewed out the same sort of poison, .............................................................................attempting to defend his Profit$, back in the 60's Review this and the previous thread that I mentioned & any honest broker will conclude that your awkward defence of this Maligancy we have come to know as MySainto has been beaten & exposed at every turn .
BullCrap ! It has been shown & proven time & time again There IS NO HIGHER YEILD with GMO crops There is only Highter Roundup Glyphosate use Do your homework - - Review the threads mentioned ................................or enjoy your Willful Ignorance . .
You still haven't provided any proof of your claims. Show me the actual stats and the peer reviewed studies than link GMO food with any illness or death in people. And please don't re-publish the useless experiments where human cells are bombarded with Round Up or some other nonsense and the claim it is deleterious to human beings. I want to see direct links to specific persons illness or death linked directly to consuming GMO corn...for instance.
Yeah all the food producers are selling poison while they gleefully rub their hands and rake in the dough. Those nasty rich people...All they want to do is make money, they don't care about the average person. Can you see the complete insanity of that type of thinking? Of course, the average person is who PAYS them for their product. Apparently corporate executives have lost their minds and are willfully poisoning the very people that make them millionaires.
They're willfully making as much profit as is possible, by any means necessary (even if they have to use lab creations to do it). But hey, I just want to know what I'm eating but, apparently that's too much to ask.
: Perhaps you would be wise to take your own advice, Do your Homework & Be Pleased to be informed: The term Green Revolution has been expropriated by Corporations to suit their Profit motivated agenda The original Green Revolution is quite different from what should be termed the Monsanto Gene Revolution The development of new seed hybrids tailored to specific needs has proven beneficial The development of Patented Transgenic varieties tailored to suite Corporate Poisons .................................................. .. such as RoundUp is quite different ------------------------- Just a few Green Rev GLES for your consideration Specifically: The use of Transgenic GMO Seed developed for use with RoundUp has shown time & time again a percipitous DROP in yield, the development of so called super weeds and the degradation and destruction of soil GM Crops Do NOT Increase Yield Potential http://responsibletechnology.org/docs/gm-crops-do-not-increase-yields.pdf from the article "From the start, GM crops have performed no better than their non-GM counterparts. Evidence for the yield drag of Roundup Ready soybeans, for example, has been known for over a decade" ------------------------- & on & on Sowing Trouble: Indias Second Green Revolution http://www.scidev.net/global/biodiversity/opinion/sowing-trouble-indias-second-green-revolution.html Suman Sahai argues that India's new agricultural biotechnology deal with the United States will take power away from farmers and endanger a rich genetic heritage. When US president George W. Bush visited India in March, he announced the coming of a 'Second Green Revolution'. This was a reference to India's 1970s Green Revolution, a publicly funded push to improve food production. But the comparison simply does not hold up. The two are radically different. The proposed 'revolution' is a joint US-India initiative aimed at promoting agricultural biotechnology and the interests of private corporations. It has been cleverly packaged under the name of an agro-economic phenomenon still held in esteem by India's political leadership. The first Green Revolution produced technologies that belonged to the people. Improved crop varieties were bred with public money to fulfil a public need increasing food production and create public goods to which everyone had access. There were no intellectual property rights or patents. If anyone 'owned' the Green Revolution, it was the farmer. They chose where to plant the seeds produced by public research institutions. So despite some faults such as increasing soil salinity and water logging, the Green Revolution addressed farmers' needs, and India's food production began to rise. By contrast, the Second Green Revolution initiative centres on privately owned technologies genetically modified (GM) plants. Six multinationals BASF Plant Science, Bayer CropScience, Dow, DuPont, Monsanto and Syngenta control almost all research in this field, and their products and research methods are shackled in patents. The technology creates private goods that can only be accessed at significant cost: a bag of 'Bt' GM cotton seeds produced by the Monsanto-Mahyco joint venture, costs 1,850 rupees (US$41) in India, compared to US$6.60-8.80 for superior local varieties. The seeds belong to the company, which strictly controls their movement. 'Terminator' seeds, which produce sterile adult plants, would further reduce farmers to being even more helpless consumers not partners, as they were during the Green Revolution. Back then, scientists bred high-yield varieties in research stations and worked with farmers to produce enough high quality seeds for widespread distribution. Over the past two decades, GM technology has failed to produce a crop variety with any direct impact on hunger and nutritional needs. The (first) Green Revolution in India, on the other hand, produced the country's first dwarf, high-yielding, wheat varieties within a few years. High- yielding rice followed, and India has been able to maintain a surplus stock of grain ever since. The Green Revolution was an open, transparent, collaborative effort. But the contours of this newer revolution formally called the Indo-US Knowledge Initiative on Agricultural Research and Education have been kept so secret that neither senior Indian politicians nor the scientific community know its details. Yet the initiative's board will set the agenda for collaborative farm research with Indian laboratories and agricultural universities. Two board members, Wal-Mart the world's largest retailer and Monsanto, have according to sources within the companies, indicated that they propose using their position to enter into retailing in agriculture and agricultural trade in India. Currently, farmers can sell their produce at special markets set up by the government but a retail giant such as Wal-Mart would be able to sell food for much lower prices, and so threaten the farmers' livelihoods. Gene Bank Break-In? What is known about the new Indo-US deal is that it will focus on developing agricultural biotechnology, accessing biological resources in Indian gene banks, and discussing India's intellectual property rights regime all of which are of crucial interest to the United States. To develop the GM crops (and fish and livestock) that will dominate the collaborative research, the US bioscience corporations involved want access to the rich biodiversity in Indian gene banks, research stations and university collections. Such corporations know that high-quality local varieties are vital for the success of GM varieties. The failure of Mahyco-Monsanto's Bt cotton will have taught them this important lesson: the cotton varieties that the companies used to make Bt cotton were at best modest performers that failed to compete well with other varieties. The results were crop failure and severe losses to farmers. But many in India are uneasy about providing the United States with access to its genetic resources. Will, for example, the requirements of the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD), which the United States has not ratified, be met? Unless the CBD terms are met, India cannot allow US corporations access to its genetic wealth. US failure to meet the CBD provisions would leave India in default of its own convention commitments and violate the provisions of its national law, the Biological Diversity Act. As for India's intellectual property regime, the new initiative's board has discussed rights to products that the planned research programmes will develop. Many fear that this means that India's Protection of Plant Varieties and Farmers Rights Act the only law in the world granting legal rights specifically to farmers could come under threat from US pressure. Along with multinationals such as Monsanto, the United States has been lobbying for a change in India's intellectual property laws to introduce patents on seeds and genes, and dilute the provisions protecting farmers' rights. A combination of physical access to India's gene banks and a possible new intellectual property law that allows seed patents will in essence deliver India's genetic wealth into US hands. This would be a severe blow to India's food security and self-sufficiency. And this is not all. The US negotiators have asked for restrictions on imports of US farm products into India to be removed. This amounts to asking for the right to export GM crops and foods to India. India must avoid becoming the dumping ground for controversial products that have been rejected in many parts of the world because of questions about their safety and usefulness .---------------------------------- & on & on & on & on How the so called "Green Revolution," Monsanto and the World Trade Organization are Ruining Farmers' Lives http://killingmother.blogspot.ca/2009/12/green-revolution.html ------------------------- TPP, The Green Revolution and Monsanto: No, Thank You http://www.thegastronaut.com.au/news/news/30_TPP_the_Green_Revolution_and_Monsanto_no_thank_you.php from the article Green Revolution seems a nice name, it sounds ecological, clean and - like in this case applied to food - related to a better quality, natural food. It's a shame that in reality it seems to be the exact opposite. ------------------------- THE GREEN REVOLUTION: A NEW DEBT AGAINST THE FUTURE THE WEST'S "SOLUTION" FOR THE DEVELOPING WORLD http://www.worldfuturefund.org/Projects/greenrevolution7.html ------------------------- .The Green Revolution Fails http://www.neverendingfood.org/articles/how-the-green-revolution-has-failed-to-feed-us/ ------------------------- Lessons from the Green Revolution Do we need new technology to end hunger? http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/twr118c.htm from the articlre Introducing any new agricultural technology into an inequitable social system cannot eliminate hunger if the social questions of access to the technologys benefits are not addressed. And if the technology in question destroys the very basis for future production by degrading the soil and generating pest and weed problems, it becomes both ecologically and economically unsustainable. ------------------------- & from the Gates of one who now owns a large portion of Monsanto & who is on record for advocating large reductions in Human Population One might be wise to question his commitment to feeding the useless hoards of the starving great unwashed The Bad Seeds in the Green Revolution: Gates, Monsanto, GMO & Monopolies Microsoft, Monsanto ..................................................and Intellectual Monopolies Here's a brilliant, must-read feature exposing some of the hidden agendas of the Green Revolution and the dark side of the Gates Foundation's work in Africa. In particular, it makes explicit the symmetry of Microsoft and Monsanto in their use of intellectual monopolies to make their users increasingly powerless: The preference for private sector contributions to agriculture shapes the Gates Foundation's funding priorities. In a number of grants, for instance, one corporation appears repeatedly Monsanto. To some extent, this simply reflects Monsanto's domination of industrial agricultural research. There are, however, notable synergies between Gates and Monsanto: both are corporate titans that have made millions through technology, in particular through the aggressive defense of proprietary intellectual property. Both organizations are suffused by a culture of expertise, and there's some overlap between them. Robert Horsch, a former senior vice president at Monsanto, is, for instance, now interim director of Gates's agricultural development program and head of the science and technology team. Travis English and Paige Miller, researchers with the Seattle-based Community Alliance for Global Justice, have uncovered some striking trends in Gates Foundation funding. By following the money, English told us that "AGRA used funds from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to write twenty- three grants for projects in Kenya. Twelve of those recipients are involved in research in genetically modified agriculture, development or advocacy. About 79 percent of funding in Kenya involves biotech in one way or another." And, English says, "so far, we have found over $100 million in grants to organizations connected to Monsanto." This isn't surprising in light of the fact that Monsanto and Gates both embrace a model of agriculture that sees farmers suffering a deficit of knowledge--in which seeds, like little tiny beads of software, can be programmed to transmit that knowledge for commercial purposes. This assumes that Green Revolution technologies--including those that substitute for farmers' knowledge--are not only desirable but neutral. Knowledge is never neutral, however: it inevitably carries and influences relations of power. I fear that with hindsight we will see that contrary to the almost universal view that Gates is redeeming his bad boy years at Microsoft with the good boy promises of his Foundation, Gates will actually do even more damage in the realm of agriculture than he has in the world of computing. .
. Why do you wait ?– You & I know that No amount of Evidence or Peer Reviewed Science will convince you that Glyphosate might be dangerous – We have fenced on these threads for well over a year now. & you have been presented again & again with the FACTS regarding this Malignant Corporation You simply obstinately deny that those FACTs exist or have any validity. It seems likely to me that your job &/or present degree of comfort is intimately involved in the Profit margins of this Monster. I have seen it before, the obstinate certainty of the True Believer. Such Irrationality may give you comfort in the short term In the long term it will prove a poor survival technique. Perhaps you will have a moment of Clarity when you or yours begin to suffer from this Companies machinations. I sincerely hope NOT Anyway a few more FACTS for your perusal – Best to Yah Bros. !– Stay out of Jails, Mental Institutions & Hospitals -------------------------------------------------- Dramatic Increase in Kidney Disease in the US and Abroad Linked To Roundup (Glyphosate) 'Weedkiller' http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/dr...sease-us-and-abroad-linked-roundup-glyphosate from the article: "This information, while shocking to many who still consider glyphosate herbicide and the GM food produced with it to be relatively non-toxic, is not surprising to those who have been tracking the published research on glyphosate's wide ranging harmful effects, and which now shows a link between glyphosate and several dozen health conditions. You can view the first-hand toxicological citations here: Adverse Health Effects of Glyphosate Formulations. -------------------------------------------------- Sri Lanka Partially Bans Glyphosate for Deadly Kidney Disease Epidemic http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Sri_Lanka_partially_bans_glyphosate.php from the article: "Glyphosate’s metal-chelating activity causes bioaccumulation of toxic metals in the body, resulting in an estimated 400 000 cases in Sri Lanka and 20 000 deaths Dr Eva Sirinathsinghji -------------------------------------------------- Scientist Slams Biotech Industry over Deadly Kidney Disease http://sustainablepulse.com/2014/03...-kidney-disease-epidemic-exclusive-interview/ -------------------------------------------------- Study Connects Monsanto’s Roundup to Fatal Kidney Disease Epidemic http://ecowatch.com/2014/02/26/study-connects-monsantos-roundup-to-fatal-kidney-disease-epidemic/ from the article: “A new study published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health may have found a link between Monsanto’s Roundup weed killer and a fatal chronic kidney disease……”. -------------------------------------------------- Monsanto’s Glyphosate Herbicide should be Banned, Brazil’s Public Prosecutor says http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsan...banned-brazils-public-prosecutor-says/5377443 from the article: “Regarding glyphosate, new evidence suggests that it can become very toxic to the human kidney once it is mixed with “hard” water or metals like arsenic, cadmium, magnesium, strontium and iron, as well as others. Glyphosate is toxic enough on its own” -------------------------------------------------- Glyphosate, Pathways to Modern Diseases II: Celiac Sprue and Gluten Intolerance http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/~/media/2C6428C5A5254BAFB484C6E43E4ADCF9.ashx from the article: Celiac disease, and, more generally, gluten intolerance, is a growing problem worldwide, but especially in North America and Europe, where an estimated 5% of the population now suffers from it. Symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, skin rashes, macrocytic anemia and depression. It is a multifactorial disease associated with numerous nutritional deficiencies as well as reproductive issues and increased risk to thyroid disease, kidney failure and cancer. Here, we propose that glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide, Roundup®, is the most important causal factor in this epidemic. -------------------------------------------------- Glyphosate and Cancer http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Glyphosate_and_Cancer.php from the article: New research shows that the low levels of glyphosate found in human urine can promote the growth of human breast cancer cells, confirming the carcinogenic potential of the herbicide known since the 1980s Dr Mae Wan Ho -------------------------------------------------- Glyphosate (Roundup) Linked To Cancer of the Lymph Tissue In New Study http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/glyphosate-roundup-linked-cancer-lymph-tissue-new-study from the article: A new review on the relationship between pesticide exposure and the risk of blood cancers in the lymph glands (lymphomas) has confirmed the existence of a link with the world's most popular -------------------------------------------------- Monsanto Roundup: The Impacts of Glyphosate Herbicide on Human Health. Pathways to Modern Diseases http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsan...an-health-pathways-to-modern-diseases/5342520 from the article: Glyphosate’s Suppression of Cytochrome P450 Enzymes and Amino Acid Biosynthesis by the Gut Microbiome: Pathways to Modern Diseases -------------------------------------------------- Study Links Monsanto’s Roundup to Autism, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s http://ecowatch.com/2013/05/03/study-links-monsantos-roundup-autism-parkinsons-alzheimers/ . from the article: A new review of hundreds of scientific studies surrounding glyphosate—the major component of Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide—sheds light on its effects within the human body. The paper describes how all of these effects could work together, and with other variables, trigger health problems in humans, including debilitating diseases like gastrointestinal disorders, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s . -------------------------------------------------- Monsanto’s Roundup Herbicide May Be Most Important Factor in Development of Autism and Other Chronic Disease http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/09/monsanto-roundup-herbicide.aspx from the article: "A new peer-reviewed report authored by Anthony Samsel, a retired science consultant, and a long time contributor to the Mercola.com Vital Votes Forum, and Dr. Stephanie Seneff, a research scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), reveals how glyphosate wrecks human health. -------------------------------------------------- New review: The Multiple Health Impacts of Glyphosate http://www.gmfreecymru.org/pivotal_papers/crucial37.html from the article: "This is a long peer-reviewed article, accompanied by 286 references, which summarises the multiple negative health effects of glyphosate and Roundup, which are widely dispersed through the environment and the food chain, especially in the United States. It makes for sobering reading. It will no doubt be viciously attacked by Monsanto and its friends, but with this much evidence now piling up, NOBODY can claim that Roundup is benign, and that it is perfectly OK for it to be present in the food supply, even in miniscule quantities. When are our political leaders going to wake up to the fact that in pushing the GMO agenda, they are conniving to precipitate a public health disaster? -------------------------------------------------- .
Your links seem to take any increase in a particular illness and attribute that increase to glyphosates when that disease may also have other multiple causes. Humans have been eating glyphosates for at least 12 years and so far, no one has gotten ill or died from them.
