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Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Jack Hays, Oct 13, 2023.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    So…….. All in your imagination then?
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    You really have no defense, do you? You're playing all the desperation cards.
     
    Bullseye, Oct 19, 2023
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    You've been citing conspiracy theories all night. Haven't offered one bit of proof.
     
    Bullseye, Oct 19, 2023
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Why should I prove your point for you? We have a saying here in Aus it goes “What did your last slave die of?”
    now you are resorting to ad Homs - know I am winning when we get to that point
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have but in reality I set the standard early on comparing the graph in the OP to SIX DIFFERENT SITES. These included NOAA, Columbia University and Berkeley Earth. All of whom basically show similar graphs even though they are using different algorithms. Now YOUR proof is??
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    Ooooh! More Ad Homs! Must be on a winning streak!
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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  7. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Accurately describing your #70 is hardly an ad hom.
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have now (perhaps unwittingly) joined in a scurrilous smear campaign. You can get a full appreciation of Susan Crockford's impressive credentials and work at her website, but here's something to get you started.

    **Crockford, S.J. 2022c. Polar bear fossil and archaeological records from the Pleistocene and Holocene in relation to sea ice extent and open water polynyas. Open Quaternary 8(7): 1-26. https://doi.org.10.5334/oq.107

    The reason the polar bear old boys club hates her so much is that she debunked their alarmist hypothesis about polar bear survival. They have never refuted her work, but have instead stooped to personal attacks. Here's her work that embarrassed them.

    *Crockford, S.J. 2017a. Testing the hypothesis that routine sea ice coverage of 3-5 mkm2 results in a greater than 30% decline in population size of polar bears (Ursus maritimus). PeerJ Preprints 2 March 2017. Doi: 10.7287/peerj.preprints.2737v3 Open access. https://doi.org/10.7287/peerj.preprints.2737v3

    Rather than discuss the science, they did this.

    An ugly new paper shows why the climate policy debate is broken
    Anthony Watt
    By Larry Kummer. From the Fabius Maximus website. Summary: An important (but fatally flawed) new peer-reviewed paper about climate change reveals much about climate science, the public policy debate, and…

    "This is absolutely the stupidest paper I have ever seen published" https://t.co/jBSiJ1DMlL pic.twitter.com/XnuRZDrsUt

    — Judith Curry (@curryja) November 29, 2017
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Hill is Just Making Stuff Up Now About Climate Change, Fossil Fuels, and Insurance
    ALARMIST MESSENGERS/CLAIMS OCTOBER 17, 2023

    The Hill recently posted an article titled, “Climate change is still the top issue in the 2024 election,” written by William S. Becker, which makes a barrage of claims about climate change and public policy. The piece appears to be intended to encourage voters to hold climate issues as their top priority in the upcoming United States elections. His claims, including that scientists agree climate change is an existential crisis; most Americans hold climate change as a high priority; that fossil fuels receive undue federal subsidies; that rising insurance costs point towards the impact of climate change on property, are all false. . . .
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    So accurately comparing your graph from the OP to other world recognised sources is somehow a conspiracy theory??? Meanwhile describing vague accusations of “manipulation of data” without proof as being somehow “truth” or “science” or whatever is truly bizarre as is clinging to a clearly manipulated misrepresentation of data whilst repeatedly ignoring the analysis showing the manipulation - hence my reference to the dead parrot sketch.
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    No the reason she is hated is because she is consistent with her manipulations of data - see my analysis which you are ignoring. Did she or did she not cherry pick the data and use news articles instead of scientific research papers?

    Oh! And I love love love that one comment on Twitter/x about a paper awaiting peer review is somehow “Dey is all out to get us!”
     
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    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    Trying to change the topic much?
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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  13. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Deniers gonna deny.
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your lack of familiarity with the topic is sadly apparent.
     
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    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Just another climate fact check. Fully compatible with the thread.
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    But running away from the current debate where we have demonstrated that the OP fulfilled nearly every single criteria listed below
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    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    Ooooh! Oooooh! Ooooih! Another Ad Hom Did she or did she not misrepresent the citations and the data?
     
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    Bowerbird, Oct 19, 2023
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's just another predictably false claim.
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, she did not. And the fact that you would make such a claim demonstrates your lack of familiarity with the topic.
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2023
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    Media Fails to Examine Actual Data in Making “Hottest Summer Ever” Claims
    OCTOBER 20, 2023

    . . . The climate alarmist news media and climate activist scientists have been misleading the public with false claims of the “hottest summer ever” based on using summer average temperature anomaly values derived from Tavg while ignoring summer maximum temperatures (Tmax) with the maximum temperature data clearly showing the U.S. has not seen a “hottest summer ever” outcome in year 2023.

    The sharply increasing minimum temperatures are significantly driven by Urban Heat Island impacts (UHI) as described in a recent significant study (shown below) at this WUWT link by Dr. Roy Spencer whose study evaluated how increasing population density around cites over the last 100 years have resulted in artificial heat sources (buildings, roads, airports, vegetation, traffic, air-condition vents, etc.) impacting temperature measurements at stations in these areas across the U.S. . . .
     
    Jack Hays, Oct 21, 2023
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    The logical fallacy is that global CO2 emissions can be reduced without the cooperation of the Chinese Communist Party which is using the global warming catastrophe as a means to strengthen the Red Chinese economy and weaken the economies of the western democracies.
     
    AFM, Oct 21, 2023
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Honestly there are so many conspiracies in there I am not sure where to start. I think though you left out the one about the chemtrails interacting with 5G causing brain wipes
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 22, 2023
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    Time and again this is the issue

    But it seems your author makes a habit of “diddling the numbers”
    https://blog.hotwhopper.com/2018/07/the-global-inconsistency-of-climate.html
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...bility-Deniers-Forget-About-It-When-It-s-Cold
     
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    Bowerbird, Oct 22, 2023
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    Lols!
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 22, 2023
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    Prove it then. Take my points and disprove them
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 22, 2023
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