More anti-military rhetoric from Trump

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not why he left and you know it.

    That's not why he left and you know it.

    You named two.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In short, anyone not voting or protest voting (for person that can't win), is a vote for the eventual winner. For your vote to count, assumed person closest to your beliefs, you should vote for one of the two that will represent all of us, in 2017....
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't bother trying to discredit Trump as I'd never be able to keep up with the job he's doing of it.
     
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    That is exactly why they were forced out.... I named two of the most prominent.
     
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    Hey,hate the game,not the player.It's a comprehensive list regardless.
     
  7. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No wonder you're so messed up, reading stuff at that site.
     
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    I don't read anything there.I just see things for what they are.
    For instance:You are a paid shill.You keep it light and don't post much with substance.
    And make your character quota.
    Nevertheless:That is a list of Generals Obama got rid of.
    Obama is a radical Communist,they need to go away ASAP.
    Hillary is another one so it's not her.
    Then Reagan came along,and it got real.
    (In America)
    Here's a video for you:
    By the way,that was in 1979,when Carter was a wimp.
    [video=youtube;OtZ5YsvREi4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtZ5YsvREi4[/video]
     
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    Our military under Obama is in really sorry shape today. If Obama were actually part of the military he would have been court martial under Article 92 of the UCMJ for dereliction of duty.

    And the generals, most of the generals who were known to be warriors have been purged from the military by the Obama White House and replaced with PC yes men.
     
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    How do you know Johnson can't win. He is on the ballot in all 50 states. With both Trump and Clinton's unfavorables at 60% or higher, perhaps people will wise up and stop voting for the lesser of two evils or the least hated candidate and actually vote for someone who might be good for this country instead of who will drive this country to ruin. Trump and Clinton, just a matter of who speeds up the faster, same results.

    If we as the people can't see through the charade of voting for the lesser evil, you are still electing evil, then we deserve whatever we get..
     
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    One-liners like this may be good enough for Hillary and her campaigners, but they won't help you come November. We've seen one molehill after another turned into a mountain, but the fact is that Trump is doing a good job and Hillary is in trouble.

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    It will take a revolution in the two-party mentality. People have been voting D and R for generations now, with other parties and independents regularly regarded as unelectable.
     
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    She's been leading in the polls and the electoral college predictions all along, so yeah it's terrible for her.
     
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    Still noticed you ignored my comment. You ignore the comment from someone who is actually in the military, deployed, and has been overseas in many countries with many soldiers.

    Makes sense. The coward left is no better than the Trump right. No wonder Trump and Hillary were friends for so long. People like you will bite right away. lol
     
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    This does not fit a convenient left vs right narrative. Neither Republicans nor Democrats can use these facts to their advantage, ergo they will be ignored.

    I'm curious, though, about how Trump will be harmful to the military, and about whether that alleged harm is actually a serious problem for us as a nation.
     
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    Yeah, D,R and W in 1856 and since 1860 basically D and R. This is the first election in my lifetime, I was born right after WWII where I feel both candidates, the D and R candidates are about to destroy this nation whichever one is elected. Since I can remember, regardless of whether the D or the R won, I felt comfortable with them. I had a feeling that even though our political ideology and philosophy were different, they were out to do what they deemed best for this country.

    I don't have that feeling with Trump and Clinton, its more of an ego trip and the quest for power than the want to do what is good for this country. You're right, one of them will win. One will win because of habit or us being too stupid or ignorant to vote third party. So we get what we deserve, a President Trump or President Hillary.

    You don't know how dog gone glad I am a old fart and probably won't have to live too long in the devastation either Trump or Clinton brings to this nation.
     
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    Your concern that an erratic, temperamentally unstable reality tv performer could suddenly assume the position of Commander in Chief is a valid one.

    Your indiscriminate consignment of a mediocre, albeit knowledgeable and experienced, politician (with an extensive record of statecraft, who would likely perpetuate the status quo) to the same infernal realm is disproportionate.

    She only merits an outer circle.

    The day she demeans American POWs as losers, mocks the handicapped, and earns the endorsements of neo-nazis and other white supremacists, be sure to let me know.

    That is when I could begin to attempt to contrive an equivalency.
     
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    Collectively stupid, perhaps. Individually we may prefer a third party or independent, but elections are very much a group, collective endeavor. We operate differently in groups than we do independently; it's all a part of our evolved social strategy. We tend to join one group in opposition to others, and we adjust our thinking and actions according to what we perceive other groups and individuals as doing. It would be interesting if everyone voted on a purely individual basis, without that social strategic thinking factoring in. Gary and Jill, among others, would no doubt do much better. Crooks and clowns like Hillary and Donald would likely not do very well at all.

    I'd settle for a leveling of the playing field. No more D and R - only debates, no more massive amounts of campaign financing going to just those parties for the same basic reasons that they get most of the votes (group stupidity again).
     
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    In my mind, I see no evil; Trump was or is a pretty good businessman, basically doing what he now intends to stop. Ms. Clinton, simply doing whatever, for 25-30 years. IOW, Trump want's real change, Clinton does not, rather the continuation of whatever you feel has been Obama's policy.

    We really don't have a record/history of a real two party system. With three branches of Governance, those that enact and enforce the Legislative Branch, meaning the Executive Branch theoretically work with hundreds of people from all States, backgrounds and need their cooperation to get the money, but allocate the funds to 100% operated. If there is a conflict, the Judicial Branch can settle disputes. My point is, every demographic or ideology is represented and to work as intended, must work together. Put another way, the two Major Parties of today, are NOT the same as each was 20 years ago or forty years ago, and so on....

    As for Johnson, he knows he can't win and few real Libertarians even think he is one of them, at least under their charter. He is young and probably hopes to get known, maybe to run as a Republican in the years to come. Anyway your vote or not voting to protest, is simply a vote for one of the top two parties.
     
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    Your POV is noted.
     
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    I think we all would prefer a level playing field. Group think, now that is interesting. This country was founded on the individual, such things as individual freedoms, individual rights, individual responsibility, etc. Today we have progressed to groups and left the individual standing out in the cold. Good way to put it and get me thinking.
     
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    Now how do you figure that? My vote for Johnson or not voting at all is simply a vote for one of the top two parties? If I vote for Johnson, both Trump and Clinton's numbers remain the same. Now I have been hounded lately by Clinton supporters telling me my vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump and Trump supporters telling me my vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary. Heck, it is against both. It is almost like the two major parties own my vote and I better vote the way they want me too.

    Now if I stay home, don't vote neither Trump or Clinton's numbers will rise either. I fail to see how that is a vote for one of the two parties. One thing it isn't, it isn't a protest vote against the two party's candidates as a Johnson vote would be.
     
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    Absurd, isn't it? That's a great example of the spoiler mentality. D and R continue to dominate because they dominate; it's a feedback loop, a self-fulfilling prophecy, a situation where having power causes them to gain even more due to public perception. It is a trap we as a nation have been stuck in for a very long time. Systemic reform is in order to solve the problem, I think. The Founding Fathers likely didn't foresee this happening, at least not as it actually developed, and so the system they gave us was not adequate to prevent it. Then again, there have been some changes over the long years since 1776. Perhaps today's situation can be pinned on those? Such as the 17th Amendment, changing how senators were elected.

    It's interesting that this happened around the same time we got the Federal Reserve Act. Seems we had a covert revolution of sorts in the very early twen-cen..
     
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    The liberals Tail Hook witch hunt :roflol:

    The beginning of purging the U.S. military Officers Corps of it's warriors under the Clinton administration. And it continues today under Obama's liberal social engineering of the military by politicizing the military and replacing war fighters with PC yes men.

    Warriors are fired or forced to resign and are replaced by the Obama White House with PC yes men or with unqualified field grade officers who are fast tracked up the chain of command based upon their gender, color of skin, sexual preference instead of being able to wage war and win on the battlefield be it on land, sea or air.
     
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    You can read his honesty ratings in polifact or factcheck.org. Believe he tells the truth about 18% of the time. And if you watched the Commander in Chief forum in about three sentences he said he had a secret plan to defeat ISIS and then about two sentences later he was going to appoint a military commssion to make recommendations and then he said our generals were useless, etc etc.

    And then in the same forum was his praise of Putin as a great leader. A man who assasinates his opponents and supresses freedom of the press and is basically a corrupt dictator.
     

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