More anti-military rhetoric from Trump

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Thinking coherently seems to be over his head.

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    Well since he already has a secret plan in his mind that could actually be true.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree on the a self-fulfilling prophecy. Every election cycle one hears the the two major party candidates suck, that we want a third choice. But when the pedal hits the medal, we refuse to vote for that third choice, instead voting for the lesser of two evils or the least worst candidate.

    Now this year, it is more than (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing or complaining. Never before has the two major party candidates ever had disapproval, dislike, negative views close or above 60% of all Americans. If there was ever a time for a well financed third party campaign, independent challenger like Ross Perot, John Anderson or George Wallace, this year they could definitely win and win going away. I suppose it all boils down to money and habit.

    Or Founding Fathers, framers hated the idea of political parties, they called them factions. They want a nation without them, of course that wasn't going to be. They feared there would come a time when it out be the good of the political party over the good of the country. Loyalty to political party over loyalty to the nation. It has indeed come to pass.

    How else can one explain Trump and Clinton?
     
  3. CourtJester

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where have you been the last 8 years? Out of the country?

    Obama Purging Military Of Commanders Who Disagree

    http://www.offthegridnews.com/how-to-2/obama-purging-military-of-commanders-who-disagree/
     
  5. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for posting crap from weird fringe websites. Couldn't find anything on the nationalenquirer.com?

    As for this junk article:
    First of all Tilley isn't a high level military commander. He runs a camp. Second of all he was fired for failing to act on a sexual assault allegation.
     
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    LOL, pick one out of the hundreds fired or riffed.
     
  7. CourtJester

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    Since we have over 500,000 offcers in the US military it is hard to actually consider nine officers losing their position as a purge. And even if you take the 500 number in the article that is presented without any proof that is still approximatly 0.1 %.
     
  8. Doug_yvr

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    The US Military has more than a million employees. As with any large organization that size thousands of people will get canned every year.
     
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    Johnson is just another professional politician running to to serve the interests of the political class. His campaign has nothing to do with winning the election. Which is why he does not even bother to read a newspaper or listen to news broadcasts. Hence Aleppo.
     
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    You're posting articles talking about colonels and then making the leap to generals. In other posts people are talking about a 'purge' because two misbehaving Generals are gone.

    Must be harder and harder to be a Trump supporter and having to make this stuff up all the time.
     
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    A military that has not managed to win a clear final victory over an enemy in over 70 years should expect to have its leadership purged.

    Of course, the ultimate responsibility rests with the Commanders in Chief and Congress. Only the people can purge them.
     
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    Grenada?
     
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    Does the Castro dictatorship still rule Cuba?
     
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    "Generals purges"? Another "great idea" from a Russian dictator...the kind Trump likes-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purge_of_the_Red_Army_in_1941

    :)
     
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    LOL, yeah one general accused of using fake chips but never proven.

    The purge is noticeable and unprecedented.
     
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    And we might add so far the purge is unproven. Now you are down to one general. And by the way he admitted sing the chips knowing they were fake. He just denied making them.

    " In the statement, Giardina said he deeply regretted having not immediately surrendered to security officers the four chips which he said he found in a toilet stall at the Horseshoe. He said it was an "error of judgment" that he put three of the chips in play at a poker table, and said he was sorry that he subsequently lied in saying he had purchased them from a man in the bathroom.

    "I should have either told the truth or remained silent instead of lying about the events when questioned" by an Iowa state investigator on June 18, 2013, he wrote. That was two days after he played the fake chips and casino officials determined they were counterfeits.

    His own statement is more evidence than you have ever gotten against Hillary!
     
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    Not really - he's including colonels in with his list of merged generals. Soon he'll be including the cavalry's horses.
     
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    When you have Trump as a role model making stuff up is easy.
     
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    Something like five generals this year alone is not enough proof for you. Do you need somebody to hold your hand and walk you through it?
     
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    Had the Russian generals failed to win a war for over 70 years before the purge? If so the purge was overdue.

    Surely you know that is not why they were purged. ;-)

    And is firing public servants who can't do their jobs a "purge"?
     
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    The political class needs military leaders that are comfortable with losing wars.
     
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    " Something like " so far I believe you have found one general who was clearly disciplined for very good reason. And by the way there are about 200 generals in the military so one is hardy a purge. And even if you could document five generals which apparently you cannot do that would still be only 2.5% which still ain't a purge.

    But keep trying!
     
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    How do we deal with the situation? I think changing how campaigning and debates are handled could work. If it weren't a matter of just two parties being able to afford endless advertising and they alone getting into debates, then the spell might be broken. These things are handled too privately, too corporately, as it is now.
     
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    Try taking your head out of the sand. Googlefoo is for you.
     

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