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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    NIH has far more credibility than the Xtofascist Disinformation sources you are using.
    Xmas = Christmas
    Xtofascist = Christofascist.

    Need any other explanations of common abbreviations?
    Xtofascist allegations of "social contagion" have been DEBUNKED by factual scientific studies.
     
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    Here's the poll you are siting.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx
    Here's the result.
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    Here's the breakdown.
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    While all categories have ticked up...the bisexual one is the one that spiked hard in the past few generations.

    Got anything else or? 2 percent is still 1.5 percent higher than it should be since it's an identity disorder.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You mean the studies that were in YOUR source article what was DEBUNKED by the same studies that it was referencing?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!

    Classic self own if ever there was one!

    Hysterical!
     
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    As a trans Boomer who was "heterosexual" having to choose just one of those 5 heteronormative boxes I would opt for "bisexual" as the closest to checking "All" which would be the more accurate choice.

    Here is your problem with this data, it ASSUMES that those categories are all there is and there is no overlap.

    I was AMAB but now self identify as genderfluid meaning I am BOTH male and female. That made me ask does that make me a lesbian when I am with a female and gay when I am with a male or is it not gay because part of me is female/male? And what if I meet another genderfluid trans person who was AFAB? Do our bodies mean that we can also check BOTH the heterosexual AND homosexual boxes at the same time?

    The answer to your question about the data is valid. Understanding WHY younger generations are picking that option is because it is the closest thing that the survey has to an All-of-the-Above option.

    "Other" doesn't work because it is EXCLUSIVE and what they, and I, are experiencing is INCLUSIVE.
     
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    So how does this work? All studies YOU provide are the gospel and everyone elses studies are crap?
    I smell FASCISM!!
    would it sound cooler if i slapped a "XTO" before that word?
     
  6. ToughTalk

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    You didn't read the ****ing study.

    "Gallup asks Americans whether they personally identify as straight or heterosexual, lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender as part of the demographic information it collects on all U.S. telephone surveys. Respondents can also volunteer any other sexual orientation or gender identity they prefer."

    You also didn't notice that .04 percent of WOMEN selected "gay" (men attracted to men) and .01 percent of MEN selected "lesbian".

    The data is fine. You can't read. Were too arrogant to read, or you thought you super special identity wasn't being acknowledged in the ****ing study.

    My statement is true. You are just wrong. Being TRANS still is an incredibly rare thing. Which makes it incredibly obvious that children are being indoctrinated by activists posing as parents.

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    As a trans Boomer who was "heterosexual" having to choose just one of those 5 heteronormative boxes I would opt for "bisexual" as the closest to checking "All" which would be the more accurate choice.

    Here is your problem with this data, it ASSUMES that those categories are all there is and there is no overlap.

    I was AMAB but now self identify as genderfluid meaning I am BOTH male and female. That made me ask does that make me a lesbian when I am with a female and gay when I am with a male or is it not gay because part of me is female/male? And what if I meet another genderfluid trans person who was AFAB? Do our bodies mean that we can also check BOTH the heterosexual AND homosexual boxes at the same time?

    The answer to your question about the data is valid. Understanding WHY younger generations are picking that option is because it is the closest thing that the survey has to an All-of-the-Above option.

    "Other" doesn't work because it is EXCLUSIVE and what they, and I, are experiencing is INCLUSIVE.
     
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    I'm not interested in your anecdote. Nobody here is. I posted you hard data. You are making assumptions based on your own personal experiences and feels. The data is the data. Trans is rare. The survey was as respectful and diverse as it could possibly be. 2 percent of GEN Z are trans. That's rare. Stop indoctrinating children. Being trans is opting to choose a hard/confusing lifestyle of which is a biological dead end.
     
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    BWAHHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

    So according to YOU the is ONLY a increase in bisexuality that you cannot explain?

    Per the 2020 Gallup of Self Identified Sexual Orientation 11.3% of GenZ picked Trans and the 2021 Gallup Study establishes 21% as LBGTQ therefore 11.3% of LBGTQ.

    The GenZ number is probably the most accurate percentage of LBGTQ people in the population as a whole.

    Let's do the Math!

    US population - 332 million.
    LBGTQ - 21% of 332 million = 69.7 million.
    Trans - 11.3% of 69.7 = 7.8 million trans people in America or 2.4% of the population which is a tad less than one in 40 people being trans.

    I appreciate that the "official" number is only 1.4 million but we are dealing with the REALITY that is being SUPPRESSED because of our heteronormative society IMPOSING stupid boxes that make no sense as far as Nature is concerned.

    One in forty is commonplace enough for an extended family to have at least one person who is trans.

    Furthermore YOU have NOT provided a single SHRED of CREDIBLE evidence to support your BOGUS allegations about "activists/parents"/
     
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    Not according to me. According to the data.

    Genz is 2 percent trans. not 11%. 2%. If we had a generation that was over 10% trans we as a society would be in a mental health crisis. BUT, since we will need to rely more and more on immigration to offset the biological dead end of being gay or trans...those coming in are born and raised in a more traditional set of values which is exactly why they are out breeding progressive/western societies.

    Thus making our population more conservative.

    As for my allegation of activists masquerading around as parents? Simple mathematical probability easily proves that theory.
     
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    Too bad that Xtofascists do that ALL the time to their own children!

    Why don't you have a problem with Xtofascist INDOCTRINATING their own children?

    Do you know how miserable it must be to be FORCED to live your entire life as LIE because of Xtofascist indoctrination?

    Of course you don't because you are not trans!

    I am, I KNOW what I am talking about.

    My heart cries out for the 2% of children brought up to believe that their god doesn't accept them unless they pretend to be someone they are not.
     
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    Are you saying that Gallup is LYING when their Survey clearly stipulates 11.3% of LBGTQ adults? upload_2023-8-8_16-45-1.png

    In which case go ahead and PROVE it because so far everything else you have is just a strike out.
     
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    Oh I am for sure going to "indoctrinate" my child into having a sound understanding of his identity well before activists pushing an agenda can get into his head. Society requires straight/hetero to be the norm or society dies off. At any rate, I brought you the data you requested. It backs my claims. Do you have anything else other than seething and coping?
     
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    I'm sorry...being trans is super rare I said, ya? Seems to be the case...ya? :D
     
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    Thank you for conceding that your position WRT what is best for LBGTQ members of our DIVERSE society is based on LBGTQ disinformation.

    Our society is destroying our environment which is what will result in us all dying off.

    You IGNORED the data that PROVED you WRONG!

    Kind refrain from PROJECTING your own actions onto others.
     
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    I didn't ignore the data. I posted you the data. And your "refute" even accidentally proved my point. Being trans is rare. .6 percent of adults in the United States!

    Thanks for playing!
     
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    Thank you for establishing that you did not comprehend the Math which EXTRAPOLATED the number of trans people once we no longer have to deal with Xtofascist heteronormative boxes nonsense.

    It is NOT "super rare", it is only SUPPRESSED by the Xtofascists.

    The number of Boomers who self identify as LBGTQ surged from 2% to 2.6% which is a THIRTY PERCENT INCREASE in just a few years.

    What caused that massive increase?

    Did the Boomer's parents/activists contact them via Ouija boards and force them to come out of the closet because that MUST be your explanation if you are to remain consistent? :D
     

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    indoctrination caused that massive increase. when we see that an adult trans...(.6 percent of the US population) MAGICALLY ends up with a trans child...(2 percent of the GENZ population). Based on the outrageous improbable odds that happened naturally versus that having been engineered through activism is much more likely! Being trans is not a societal benefit. it's a mental illness,of which we do not, and should not indoctrinate children into.

    :)
     
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    100% Xtofascist Indocrination Disinformation BS!

    Trans people have always existed because that is how Nature and Evolution works, it keeps on rolling the dice.

    There is evidence for being trans in the Bible Job 21:24.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans...ave existed since,develop until the mid-1900s.

    Medical documents called the Hippocratic Corpus beginning around the 5th Century BCE identify the condition.

    So the only NEW aspect to being trans is the current HYSTERIA by the Xtofascists.

    The global population has never been larger than it is now so clearly there MUST be some societal benefit because it is clearly not preventing mankind from becoming it's own plague.

    There is a study about a medical practitioner who cut off an infant boy's penis by mistake. He then convinced the parents to raise him as a girl instead. It was a hideous case of child abuse and fortunately the young man survived. The point of this story is that no one can be INDOCTRINATED into becoming the other sex. You are either born this way or you aren't. You KNOW whether things are right or wrong for you.

    FACTS, SCIENCE and REALITY are the primary cause of Xtofascist Trans Derangement Syndrome. (TDS)

    Did you see that the Anti-Abortion Xtofascists just got smacked down in Red State Ohio? We the People don't appreciate Xtofascists taking away our rights and yes, we transpeople have the same rights as everyone else.
     
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    If they've "always existed", then those surgeries are not needed.

    An argument that something has always existed is not necessarily an argument that it should exist. Lots of crazy stuff went on in ancient times.

    Some people were eunuchs in ancient times.
     
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    If you want to use that argument, then we should ban transgender persons from womb transplants. Correct?
     
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    There is no "gay gene" There is no "trans gene" You are not born trans. You can have an identity disorder where as you reject the reality of who you are. But it is absolutely a disorder. That disorder can manifest itself from childhood trauma. It can absolutely be indoctrinated on young, defenseless children.

    I don't care much about your "rights" argument nonsense. Just keep your bullshit away from children.

    The odds of a transgender parent happening to have a transgender child are astronomical. We are talking "hit by lightning" odds mathematically. It is much more likely that the transgender parent is indoctrinating their defenseless child into being trans. Such a parent is an activist and child abuser. Since they are pushing their child down a difficult road and life.

    Live your life. Keep your bullshit away from children.
     
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    The odds of both a mother and child SHARING the same GENES are 50% because that is where the child received HALF of her DNA!

    Clearly Math is NOT your strong suit. LOL!
    Tell that to the Xtofascists who protect preacher pedophiles from the Law of the Land.
     
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    There is no gay gene. There is no trans gene. Show me the trans gene please.

    Reality is not your strong suit. ;)

    You need to whatabout to try and deflect from your destructive ideology of wanting to indoctrinate children. Notice that?
     

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