MTV insults white guys

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    this is offensive on its face. Fortunately MTV has been irrelevant since about 1987.
     
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    Leftists, in their moral and intellectual 'superiority', have granted themselves, and only themselves, the authority to publicly stereotype based on race and gender.
     
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    In my experience, it is more the rule than the exception. There is one of them currently driving around on my doughnut spare tire because money slips between his fingers like sand, and I refuse to loan him money for a new tire because he never has repaid me a dime ever. His bank is closed.

    There is a 100% chance you are wrong.

    I am a Millennial LOL. My parents both died prematurely. My dad was the world's biggest cheapskate. It was kind of embarrassing growing up that my dad wouldn't buy us the high dollar gear, we didn't live in a better neighborhood, my parents drove old cars, etc. It was why I started working making money as soon as I was old enough to find someone who would let me work for them. Beyond odd jobs, my first job was at 14 working under the table for a man who owned some restaurants. In case you haven't noticed, half of America makes less than $30K a year. His $25K a year was not that off that. Thing is, there was a lot more good learning in that embarrassment than I realized. It took them being gone for me to realize it. I make significantly more money than he did. The more I make, the more of a cheapskate I have become. It is quite an odd pattern and I am not sure why. I guess because I want to retire early enough to live life for awhile before I am creaky. Not sure.

    No idea what you mean by that, but okay.

    Doesn't matter about globalist rule or not. If you do not learn to make better decisions with personal finances, it is all money in, money out. Part of that is learning your wants won't kill you.
     
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    I plan on starting a strict regimen of self-flagellation as a means of atoning for my maleness and whiteness come 2017. I ordered my cat o' nine tails on Amazon yesterday and should receive it tomorrow in accordance with my free two-day shipping perk.
     
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    Except I haven't massacred or destroyed anyone. I'm actually quite sympathetic towards minority groups who suffer oppression and disenfranchisement due to things like racism, sexism, and xenophobia. This video is racist and sexist and totally counterproductive and will not help the cause of social justice in any way.
     
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    Bravo, man. Say what you want about your dad, he raised a good one.

    I'm actually doing fine at this point. But it sure felt like it didn't need to be that hard. Forever a work in progress.

    But if you really are a poor millennial, you had to have seen what I'm saying all around you.

    But who knows, a dad able to be that responsible might of actually had you in a better area than his income usually gets.

    Not sure. But I promise, you're the 3%.
     
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    Well that's why your logic is so flawed, because you view people, not as individuals, but as abstract collectives.

    In reality, only individuals can be held responsible for their actions. I am not responsible for the crimes of other "white" individuals merely because we share a similar skin pigmentation anymore than you are responsible for the crimes of individual Muslims because you share a similar set of religious beliefs.

    This is especially true when you consider the fact that many "white" people are allies in the fight against racism, sexism, and xenophobia. Do you think attacking your allies in the struggle for toleration is a good strategy?
     
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    Do you actually believe "the white man" will be brought to "his" knees by impotent propaganda? Not that I endorse the existence of such a construct, but assuming there was such a thing as a coherent "white man", do you think "he" would be removed from his pedestal by feckless social justice warriors and the like? Do you think the allegedly privileged position "he" attained over the centuries was the result of being pushed around by weaklings?
     
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    I have my moments. In the last 10 days, I have been lusting after a $1,500 camera and a $900 PC tower for gaming. I can afford both. I want both. I have come close to buying both, but when the time came to actually do it, I just reminded myself I saw a travel package that could get me a round trip to China for less money. I have no desire to go to China mind you, but that I could get an all included vacation on the other side of the planet for what this would be costing me told me I could wait. It is part of my own illogical tendencies though. I have an Xbox. I could get Battlefield 1 for Xbox, but I want to have it on PC instead but my PC won't run that game. There is no logical reason for me to drop almost a grand for a new tower. I want the $1500 camera because I want to take better photos to post online, particularly a big fat toad that hangs out that I have trouble getting a dope quality photo of. If I had that camera, maybe I would then decide I wanted to go to China. Who knows. I just have to remind myself to call myself an idiot on a routine basis.
     
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    I see what you're getting at, but still, that was only directed at white men at face value. It was made to reinforce stereotypes programmed into anyone not a white man, in a preteen hip way. 100% racial propaganda. Haha

    And not even stereotypes that actually have some basis to exist, like "black guys are more athletic than white guys". Completely fallacious ones like, "all Jews are bankers".

    And somehow right wing guys are the nut jobs, when these types control the locations where human beings drop their children off to be educated at a cost.

    That's like a mugger vs a T-Rex. At the end of the day, the right wing does their programming via a voluntary church visit. Well, at least they can't force our children. The left having complete control of academia in a nation with the vote is an absolute travesty.

    The 100% racist propaganda commercial going off without a peep is absolute proof of the programming. Screw the literal racism involved.
     
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    Like those old days when women weren't allowed to vote, or no one who wasn't white? Or those days when Native Americans had their land taken from them? Or when the KKK was terrorizing just about everyone who wasn't a pure white Christian?

    It's only exclusionary because other people want it to be.

    As I said earlier, blue lives matter only exists because people just wanted to copy BLM with no original idea of their own.

    Generally it's done in a real patronizing, cocky, uppity manner, that's the other part to it.

    Ok that's actually fair enough.

    Here's the problem with that: there are people who say "I have black friends" usually do so when confronted with being a racist and use that as a way to dodge the issue and use the "black friend" as an accesory. No sane person would try to go out of their way to say that and more importantly, no reason to treat that like it's a high achievement.

    I assume this was either sarcasm or that nothing bad happened to you this whole year.

    "Treated as less than others or responsible for the problems of others." Hmmm, good point so hopefully that puts things into perspective when blacks, Latinos or Arabs are treated that way for no reason, especially the latter of those in light of Berlin.
     
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    I spotted this tweet today:

    Life hack!: if you're a woman and you tell a non-writer male stranger that you're a professional writer you can get FREE writing advice!!!
     
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    For the sake of political correctness training, as a 3rd party, do you:

    1. Explain to her that the guy probably didn't give a crap about the fact she's a writer and he was just trying to make conversation to score.

    2. Feed her delusion as it makes her feel empowered and intelligent.

    This is a genuine question.
     
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    What wrongness? What makes it mine? Half of my dads side of the family tree was killed fighting for the North in the Civil War to end slavery.
     
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    I think he already has, in that he has become a slave to the rampant materialism and general nihilism we see in the Western world, where modern secularism wants to destroy everything sacred in its path (the current target being Islam). However, I think things are beginning to change, and that the West is slowly- but surely- realizing the destructive path it's currently on. Nothing lasts forever.
     
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    No, I simply have the luxury to alternate (sometimes simuletansly) between a macro view of society, to a micro one- and everything in between.

    But these individuals are always part and parcel of something greater. Everything is interconnected.

    It doesn't matter whether you are responsible or not. Consider the phenomenon of illigitmate children. The Prophet told us to beware the wrath of bastard children. Why? Because children who grow up without fathers are often angry individuals, who many times end up projecting their anger at the wider society, regardless of whether the victims had anything to do with the problem in the first place.

    Allies? You made me chuckle. My only ally is God, and I'm simply an observer who finds all of is quite humorous.
     
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    I would love to see such a video.
     
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    3. Wonder why so few are in therapy.
     
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    It was recommended in the latest issue of Patriarchal Weekly.

    Hover around the offices of therapists and use the whiteness to scare folks away.
     
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    Caution for language... but a response!

    [video=youtube;euiw-p9csbU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euiw-p9csbU[/video]
     
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    The limited examples you give do not challenge the point that the nation was in fact great for all. Isolated anecdotes which is all you have do not dispute that fact.

    No you are wrong BLM is exclusionary and racist by design.

    You are are wrong about Blue lives matter. BLM opposes blue lives matter because they are a political ideology which willfully excludes others.

    Generally it is not done with an uppity or cocky manner it is merely explained reasonably which people hate.

    The vast majority of the time when people are confronted over their racism the confrontation is a lie. The VAST majority of accusations of racism are lies because there is no racism inherent. For example " build a wall " is in no way racist. The birther conspiracy theory was not the least bit racist. Opposition to affirmative action is not racist. Opposition to laws against private discrimination is not racist and discrimination is usually not racist.

    But anyone with any reasonable view point is accused of racist and no you are wrong stating you have black friends is not a cover for racism.

    It was not sarcasm 2016 was a great year.

    Latinos and blacks and arabs are not treated that way for no reason as you claim

    So we have proven and you have failed to dispute that the videos is wrong and dishonest on most of what it states it is also a racist video.
     
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    Then you're just not very good at history because if this nation was always great for all then those events mentioned above would never have happened. Slavery would not have been a thing, nor would Jim Crow, segregation, lynching and all that came with it. Native Americans would not have seen their numbers go down tremendously, everyone would've had the right to vote from the get-go, and so on.

    No it's not. And if you honestly believe BLM means "only" black lives matter without bothering to ask why they chose that moniker then I pity you.

    BLM opposes it because it was only made as a counter-counter response to BLM, which then lead to All Lives Matter, and more importantly no one was going around chanting "Blues Lives Matter" until well after this was established. Moreover the word "black" seems to be the one everyone has an issue with, meaning that's the operative.

    And condescending.

    No, maybe not racist. Just dumb.

    And any reasonable person can figure out that it's in no way necessary to go about talking about how you have black friends. It's not an accomplishment or anything new and if you find yourself in a conversation with you saying "I'm not racist I have black friends" then you're probably just an asshle who's using the black friends line as a crutch. Furthermore, having black friends doesn't mean you're not racist and on this forum alone I see it time and time again.

    Sure.

    Actually, you're right. The above groups can be treated that way because other people are asshles.
     
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    Wrong once again you are cherry picking limited anecdotes which do not dispute that the nation as great. You are running under a false premise that GREAT means perfect or without flaw which is why your attempt to argue is a massive failure.

    Black lives matter is by definition and design exclusionary and that is fact which you willfully ignore and hide behind a facade of being better informed or enlightened which you are not.

    It is not an accomplishment to have or say you have black friends that much is true it is not however a cover for racism.

    Yes it does mean you are not racist and you have not seen it on this forum the fact is you cannot provide one such example.

    Other groups are not treated that way.

    BLM is not answered to because it is about backs it is answered because it is exclusionary and racist. BLM ignores black on black murder which is actually a far grater threat facing African Americans and BLM supporters wish only to blame whites for it.

    When BLM encourages and celebrates the murder of cops and they HAVE it is clear you are simply lying about them.

    Either way it is clear the video is racist and wrong and that is proven
     
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    Limited? There is a ton of historical evidence that backs all of this up. For some people, namely blacks, there was nothing BUT flaws for them for a long, long time. Ignoring slavery, there was living in the Jim Crow south, the KKK, lynching, race riots and bombings, a 3/5ths Compromise, the Black Codes, no interracial marriages, widespread segregation, legal discrimination, "separate but equal," and just being treated as bottom-of-the-barrel beings who were less than human. Far from great.

    Also, the Naturalization Act passed after the country's freedom from Britain basically said only free white people were citizens, no one else. Then the same law had to be put through several changes over the years to allow citizenship to people from other groups, hell Native Americans didn't get theirs until 1924.

    So when you say I'm using a false premise that implies I think "great" means flawless, I can show you how wrong that is because history says otherwise and I don't know what the (*)(*)(*)(*) anyone is talking about since the country's history not only wasn't perfect, it wasn't even great.

    No it's not. It does not mean "only black lives" and it never did, until some whiny person took it and perverted its meaning because they thought black people were given special treatment here, when the whole purpose of it was to point out that black lives are just as important as everyone else.

    It's a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor counter-argument and no smart person should try and use it. Ever.

    Oh I can't?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...k-owned-banks-get-rush-new-depositors-10.html

    You'll notice the poster I was arguing with, MrNick has a "banned" tag under him, that happened a few days ago. Anyway he threw out the "I've had 5-6 black girlfriends" line out there in that post, and I called him on that. Really the whole thread from start to finish was fairly entertaining.

    Yes they have and yes they are.

    See my above response, where I've already said how wrong you are.

    Some individuals, not the entire organization. Sorta like that one chapter of Sigma Alpha Epsilon chanting that "they'll never be a N-word at SAE" song, but that wasn't the whole organization, now was it?
     
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    Wrong. You are cherry picking limited examples. No one said the examples were not true the point is that they are limited anecdotes and not an ongoing never ending problem. The fact is nothing about such examples and nothing in history proves America was never great for all.

    History does not support your false premise and yes your premise is false, lack of perfection does NOT mean lack of greatness.

    Yes it always meant only black lives matter or that others BELIEVE black lives do NOT matter which was never true. The entire set or presumptions behind BLM is false.


    Banned or not banned you cannot point out evidence of racism,

    No they are not treated that way,

    Wrong BLM wishes to blame all whites for their problems and all the members of said fraternity for racism so they get group responsibility as well
     

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