Musk helps Russia in Ukraine War

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Oh nonsense, we now all know he used it as leverage to stamp out Ukrainian government corruption being covered up by US government corruption in the Obama /Biden administration. Let me guess, youre still convinced Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation.
     
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    You'll lose political support and you'll have to govern by force.
     
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    Musk will eventually get burned if he keeps it up.
     
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    "Burned"??? Is that something other than financial loss? If not, I have a feeling Elon, like he said to X advertisers who left because he isnt woke enough, would tell Putin to "go f#ck your self" to Putin. If your referring to something like Novichok poisoning by Russian agents or something dangerous to his continued life, he might back off.
     
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    Biden just wants to go to war with everyone.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The key to understanding our war in Ukraine is each step starts with a move by the neocons
    in the US.

    Russia, Vladimir Putin in particular, are chess players, who assess a response to each move.

    The US media muddy the waters by describing Russian moves which are generally
    de-escalating, as 'cowardly', or 'weak'.
     
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    Do you really think Musk is operating a US-based company -in a theatre of war- without direction from US authorities?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    By the evidence, he doesn't seem to be under total direction of the US authorities, as you would have it.
     
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    Who do Nazis hate more than anyone today? It's not the Jews. Or blacks. They want revenge on the people who defeated their beloved Hitler: the Russians.

    The very people who scream about white supremacy as the world's biggest problem are the ones funding and supporting white supremacists. The Biden administration has funneled tens of billions out of the US treasury into the hands of Nazis on the battlefield in Ukraine.

    Don't yah think that giving Nazis historic amounts of money, and heaping praise on them for their fighting spirit (as MSM did in the Azov Battalion's defense of Mariupol, as Jon Stewart did by pinning a medal on a Nazi, or as the Canadian parliament did in their standing ovation for a Nazi), is the number one thing inspiring white supremacists around the world?
     
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    Yeah, but the question is, by who? If he gave everything the Ukranians asked for, and the Russians killed him for it, would y'all hail him has a war hero?
     
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    Is that all ya got?
     
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    I'd love to see the proof of your rather unbelievable claim. I think you may have picked up this on extreme right websites/
    The fascists on the battlefield in the Ukraine are Russians.
    Propaganda.
     
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    And there is no possible way that Musk's enemies are using bots and other methods to increase these hate posts (as I easily predicted when he was debating Twitter's purchase)?
     
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    "Y'all" refers to me and who else?

    If anyone kills Musk, I would call him a victim.
     
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    One doesn't get to be Archimedes, and not become a legitimate target of the force one is defending against.

    If a private citizen wishes to participate in battle, more power to them. But for a government to force, pressure, blackmail, etc., a private citizen to take part in battle is extremely dishonorable
     
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    I'm referring to anyone pressuring Musk to participate in a war.
     
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    Excellent job! The Azov Brigade has been depoliticized since joining the national guard, but Russia continues to use it as a focus of their propaganda.
     
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    The Nazis have spirit to fight Russians, and our government is exploiting it. Apparently they didn't learn from OBL.

    Are you sure white supremacists aren't flocking to Ukraine to fight Russians on a level similar, or even greater than ISIS sympathizers flocking to Syria? Are you sure investigative journalists won't uncover this in the future? I'm not. The truth always comes out...
     
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    Maybe because it's been used as the centerpiece for the Ukranian strategy in both major battles: Mariupol and Bakhmut. Why? Spirit. Why do they have unique spirit? Because Nazis hate Russians even more than Sean Penn hates Russians.
     
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    Hard to rule anything out, but I think he'll be punished financially.
    Some advertisers don't like their ads placed next to racist, sexist, anti-American, etc. content.
     
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    The same tools Russian agents and apologists use are available to the other side.
     
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    The underlying assumption is that Musk's satellites are flying in space with the help of the U.S. government. Watch out, Elon. He also produces vehicles with problems.
     
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    It sounds wrong, but I believe if a private citizen's property (real or intellectual) or business is necessary to prevent immediate harm to national security, then the government should temporarily seize it. I believe it is a lesser evil than pressuring someone to basically wage war on a country as an entity separate from the government that is waging war on that country.

    What happens when the governments waging war on Russia make peace? If Musk waged war as a separate entity, he would also have to negotiate his own peace?
     
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    The Speaker of the Canadian parliament resigned in disgrace because he misled MPs into thinking the guy, Vladimir Katriuk, fought against the Nazis, not for them. Parliament was being warmed up for an address by Zelensky in a rare invite to a foreign head of state. Canada was fighting Nazis more than two years before we did.
     
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    While I'm inclined to agree with you, it's often not done that way.
    We ask young men to put their lives at risk. Most people would conclude you have obligation to make your services available to the government. If you don't see it that way, we can seize your assets and pay you fair market value.
    Or Russia stops waging war on its neighbors. :roll: :roll:
    No. If he attacks anyone once peace is declared, he'll be reduced as a menace. That could be fatal.
     

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