My Obamacare is workig great!

We need to "spread the wealth around a little" I'm told.

 

"Stable" can mean the massive lacerations suffered in a pit bill attack have stopped bleeding enough to not be a danger. NO stitches, NO ongoing antibiotics, just a $500 prescription and "hit the road". (This was to a 13 yo son of a woman I know - it took us 4 days to get him on Medical so he could get stitches, and then two years of skin grafts because the stitches were late).

For me, "stable" meant I could walk 20 feet. I had a handful of prescriptions and no money to fill them, without which I would do very badly. No one EVER mentioned the heart procedure which would end my problem and give me a decent recovery until I got on insurance through the initial PCIP from Obamacare.

Duh.

Great! $175,000 discounted to $95,000! (My own experience)

Nope. You OWE the bill, your credit and assets will be taken and destroyed. If you collect any money anywhere over the next decade it will be taken.

We MINIMALLY treat everyone.

Some programs used to do a lot more in some places, but the good ol' days have in large part gone.

Of course the Righties have to reply to someone's parody and act as if that is what the poor REALLY want instead of a decent chance at REAL medical care.

 

Yeah but it's still funny. Besides, people have legitimate concerns about it.

 

You just took it up the rectum from the Democrats and Rinos, little wonder it's sore. I hear a Tea Bag up the old dirt road might help some, and it would also help if you stopped fiddling with it, but it's going to be sore for a long, long time. Good luck wid it, eh?

 

My ex-wife is a hospital adiministrator. I know what I'm talking about. If you are medically-indigent, your entire treatment will be free or very close to it.

For your dogbite example, what kind of parent lets their child walk around uninsured? A bad one...

For your example, you chose not to have insurance. I did at one time too. I suffered a very bad cycle accident once and was treated at a county hospital in CA. When all said and done, my bills were $120,000 from half a dozen different providers. I was young, just starting out in my career, did not own a house, but made decent money working for a startup that didn't offer benefits--MY CHOICE. I was far from medically-indigent. After outlining my financial situation to all the providers, they were very negotiable: My total out-of-pocket was just over $5,000. I felt that was fair. One of the providers--another county hospital--even canceled the entire bill, even though I was willing to pay them something.

I love how you have to call me a "rightie" because I think Obamacare is a bad idea.

 

Which is why some type of healthcare reform (not ObamaCare, but some type of reform) - not simply a matter of "wanting free stuff" - unless that was all that the attitude of the Weimar republic boiled down to.

The Republicans lost the public on the healthcare issue because instead of owning up to the fact that the system is FUBAR, to the point where a death row inmate has "better and more affordable access" to healthcare than an average citizen - they beat around the bush and denied that there were any holes problem with the system at all (when the holes are so big you could drive a hummer through them).

That $115,000 you never paid was tacked on to "other people's medical bills" - so when they pay "their bills", they're paying their own with your unpaid costs tacked on - which is part of the reason the costs are so hyper-inflated to begin with.

 

Actually, no. The $115,000 I never paid was simply evaporated. The value never existed in the first place--retail health care pricing is 100% artifical and does not in any way reflect the actual market cost of the service. The reason it is so high is due to numerous factors, but mostly because most Americans still get their health insurance from their jobs and the insurers have a certain amount of leverage with the providers that a single consumer doesn't have. It's Negotiation 101: Start with a ridiculously-high number, knowing that you will have to eventually come down, but take what you can get and never leave money on the table. What I actually ended up paying was probably slightly less that the true market value of the services I received. For example, a two-mile ambulance ride billed at $1,400 ended up costing me $270. That's probably slightly less than an insurer would negotiate with the provider. But I as a single consumer actually DO have some leverage--I still have to write the check. My providers knew that if they gave me a reasonable number--one that was more in line with the true market cost of the service and still allowed them to earn an acceptable profit margin, and ​ that I could afford, that I was very likely to pay.

Honestly, I don't know what the solution is and I won't pretend to, but I can guarantee you it AIN'T subsidizing a system that you and I both agree is CFUBAR... while giving the government the authority to enter "high risk" homes now without a warrant to check on the kiddies and apparently tracking private gold sales--both of which are in the new law.

Anyway, back to the dental anal rape jokes...

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Are you saying I was DP'd? Damn, no wonder it hurts so much!