Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Welp, it seems The New York Times is slowly shifting away from 'slava ukie' to yes, ukie has a nazi problem.

    This is a sure sign the MIC grift has run its course. No more 'ghosts of kyiv', no more shooting down cruise missiles with slingshots....

    ....just plain old reporting about ukie troops with nazi insignia on the front lines.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html

    A friendly reminder what your tax dollars are funding:

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    I love the Ukrainians for that.
    Nothing scares stupid ruZZkies more than Nazi gimmicks.
    :D
     
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    It's always fun watching RuZZkis having $hit kineptions....and Nazi Ukes always manage to get the Mafiosi squirmy.....ROFL.

    So easily triggered and predictable.
     
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    It is a two edged sword so caution needs to be used when trying to use NAZI symbols. It just looks bad on the face of it.
     
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    Nazis fought against ruZZkie Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks treated the Ukrainians quite badly at that time. They sparked a famine against the Ukrainians (Holodomor).

    Ukrainians saw the Nazis as allies against the Muscovites, so they are quite sympathetic to the Nazis, also because ruZZians are today the main enemy again.
     
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    There where no NAZIS at the time of the Bolsheviks Revolution. The Germans and Austrians signed peace treaty with Bolsheviks. What was left of the Central powers tried to hold onto the land they got from the peace treaty.
     
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    From the NYT article linked in the OP:

    ". . . Ukraine has worked for years through legislation and military restructuring to contain a fringe far-right movement whose members proudly wear symbols steeped in Nazi history and espouse views hostile to leftists, LGBTQ movements and ethnic minorities. But some members of these groups have been fighting Russia since the Kremlin illegally annexed part of the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014 and are now part of the broader military structure. Some are regarded as national heroes, even as the far-right remains marginalized politically. . . .

    Russian soldiers in Ukraine have also been seen wearing Nazi-style patches, underscoring how complicated interpreting these symbols can be in a region steeped in Soviet and German history. . . .

    Today, as a new generation fights against Russian occupation, many Ukrainians see the war as a continuation of the struggle for independence during and immediately after World War II. Symbols such as the flag associated with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and the Galizien patch have become emblems of anti-Russian resistance and national pride. . . . "
     
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    You don't find it weird that those flags are fresh out the bag and still have fold marks? You don't find it weird that won of those vatniks got their face photoshopped out?

    That's propaganda dude.
     
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    Tineye brought up their oldest image of the photo and it's from a Russian forum
    Try harder.


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    Russian Imperial Movement (R.I.M.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Imperial_Movement


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    May 17, 2023 — In late March 2023, The Moscow Times published a report detailing those ultraconservative, pro-Russian militias fighting in Ukraine.


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    'Putin has long claimed that he is “denazifying” Ukraine, but these claims are hypocritical. In the early 00s, a wave of revolutions swept across countries in the former Soviet Union, calling for democratic reform and changing of political leadership.

    Fearing a similar uprising could start in Russia, Putin’s Kremlin clandestinely fostered relationships with far-right groups and ultra-nationalists in a policy that has been dubbed “managed nationalism”.

    These groups proved vital in turning Russia into the authoritarian regime that we see today. However, these relationships also proved useful in Russia exerting its power abroad, and have cultivated groups that will now fight abroad, and train foreign white supremacists – all with deadly consequences.'
     
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    That must be the dangerous white supremacist terror organization that Biden is always warning about.

    Good thing he's sending them tons of weapons at our expense
     
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    Putin, being the unconscioned former KGB and modern-day Napoleonic Uebermensch that he is, does not condemn neo nazis; he manipulates and uses them the same as he uses everyone else.
     
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    When are you going to recognize that you're being manipulated by Kremlin propaganda? Here you are posting in support of Russia and their lies.
     
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    When are you going to recognize your being manipulated by Democrat propaganda?

    I don't care about Russia or Ukraine do you understand that?

    It is possible to not support either one and think we don't have any business being there.

    It's despicable that our government is sending them so damn much money and is so concerned with their border while they could give a damn less about our own border
     
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    Are the RuZZians bordering us?

    Would you rather have wetbacks or Orcs on our border?
     
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    The most engaged units in the Ukraine army are made up of Nazis and that isn't propaganda.
     
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    You mean Azov....who are all Russian speakers ??

    That's some Nazis.....:laughing:
     
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    So let me see if I got it now? The Ukrainian Nazis are lead by a Jewish president.

    And we should let Russia take Ukraine and and appease Russia. Let them Come right up to Poland. Gee that’s just how we appeased Hitler, I think he also might have been a Nazi too. Yeah we all know how well that worked out. I learn so much on these threads.
     
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    Our border is not that much of an issue. It's not under attack, contrary to the propaganda you consume and regurgitate here. There is no comparison between it and Ukraine.
     
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    Let me help with your continuing education...

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    Yes, it is.
     
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    Let's also remind the class who their teacher really is:

     
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    Really Bill??....why post your family album pics??:puke:
     
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    So tell us, Bill. Who's doing the 'Nazi' stuff in Ukraine right now. Ukrainians or Russians?
     
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    Yep. The Jewish government of Ukraine are total nazis I tell ya
     
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