Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes .. I understand your premise -- Flynn = Bad -- Just wondered if you were going to support that claim at some point ?
     
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    No.
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good to know :) Did you have any comment on Ukraine's front lines ?
     
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    Achtung Zoomy ! - snap to ! --- :)
    here we have Bona Fide Ukranian SS Galizien Division NAZI's --- Sieg Hiel'ing ---
    ....................................... their favorite crossed Swastika and Yook Trident

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    & BTW it might be said:
    Does not DENIAL of uncomfortable FACTs as they are set before YOU

    ................................... reveal a Certain (shall we say) mindless DESPERATION

     
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    As the Western media say, there are no fascists in Ukraine.

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    Uh...yup....gotta love that photo shop and super imposed pic.

    Couldn't be more fake.
     
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    Ahahahaha.... It was impossible to expect anything else from you. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    A little more about the fact that there is no fascism in Ukraine, as the Western media say.

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    Great photo shops purveyor....coupla pics look like from Charlottesville.

    Face it....Mafiosi has lost the narrative here.:)
     
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    For Ukrainians, logic is a pseudoscience. Isn't it? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  10. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Hello Zoomy - Our true-blue cast in stone Russophobe
    It is STRANGE that the Thug-Goon members of Ukrainian extremist groups like
    Azov, Right Sector etc - have NO problem admitting their Neo NAZI affiliations
    .................................................. Yet YOU feel compelled to deny they exist

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    Canadian Officials who met with Ukrainian unit linked
    to neo-Nazis feared exposure by news media

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/nati...nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents

    From the Ottawa Citizen Article:
    The Canadians met with and were briefed by leaders from the Azov Battalion in June 2018.
    The officers and diplomats did not object to the meeting and instead allowed themselves to
    be photographed with battalion officials despite previous warnings that the unit saw itself
    as pro-Nazi.

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    a bit of advice:


    It is best to accept reality as Reality IS, no matter how Upsetting, Uncomfortable
    and Damaging IT might be to YOUR proclivities and prejudices

    To Deny Reality as IT is Undeniably set before YOU is a Piss Poor survival technique
    It makes a person look === (well YOU get the picture) [​IMG] -- And do YOU think for one moment
    that any sane person NOT colored by THAT sort of HATE does not immediately see thru
    ............................................................................................................................................ that failure ?

    [

    May I respectful suggest, that for YOUR own sake that YOU confront the FACT
    that Reality may not always align with YOUR cast in stone petty Phobias

    Be Informed
    From an Article published in Psychology Today

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    Denial in the Narcissistic Mind: Pathological Distortion
    Narcissists compulsively use this early childhood defense.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...the-narcissistic-mind-pathological-distortion
    • Denial is a normal early childhood defense.
    • Narcissistic people engage in routine forms of denial to distort reality.
    • Some forms of denial are dismissal, justification, minimization, negation, and reversal.
    A refusal to acknowledge a threatening, uncomfortable, or inconvenient truth, denial
    is a developmentally normal, unconscious defense mechanism of early childhood.
    Children may deny a "bad" feeling like jealousy to preserve their self-esteem, or they
    may deny a destabilizing feeling like fear of an abusive parent to preserve attachment
    with that caregiver.

    Like shock, short-term denial can function as a temporary protection against the full
    impact of something painful or overwhelming. But ongoing denial in adulthood, a defining
    trait of pathological narcissism, becomes a choice to engage in distortions of reality.

    The Narcissist's Denials of Convenience
    Unless they are experiencing a psychotic break from reality, as can happen with schizophrenia,
    people with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) know the difference between fact and fiction,
    truth and lies. But because their personality structure is built around inflated self-importance
    (designed to scaffold unstable self-esteem), they hold reality at a distance and filter information
    to
    conform to their wishes. Add to the mix their exaggerated entitlement unmoderated by
    empathy for others and you have a personality type predisposed to manipulative and self-
    serving denials of convenience.


    Forms of Denial
    The narcissist's denial becomes a kind of self-deception in which accurate perception is ignored
    and replaced with preferred distortions. Such distortions can range from subtle misrepresentations
    to unrecognizable alterations of reality.

    &


    Effects of Denial
    Sharing information and mirroring reality are primary dimensions of human relationships. In
    infancy and early childhood, we are almost entirely reliant on our parents to teach us about
    ourselves and the world around us. If our principal caregivers and models reflect back inaccurate
    or outright false interpretations of reality, it creates ongoing cognitive dissonance between
    what we feel and perceive and what we are told is happening. Such distortions lead to degraded
    trust, alienation from our physical instincts, chronic self-doubt, and other profound disruptions
    to our identity development and ability to form attachments.

    Overcoming Denial
    Children who have ongoing forms of denial normalized at home become more vulnerable
    to denial-based manipulations and coercion later in life on the part of narcissistic partners,
    friends, and others in positions of influence and authority. To overcome such confusion and
    vulnerability, it becomes necessary to identify the patterns of denial we have experienced
    and recontextualize those experiences with our increased knowledge and understanding.

    As we work on separating from the false narratives of narcissistic and otherwise disordered
    people in our lives, many of us find ourselves reconstructing reality in alignment with what
    we have intuitively known to be true for a very long time.

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    Someone get on the PA mic .....there's a lost child wandering the aisles here.
     
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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Yah ! [​IMG]
    And the puerile little BRUT is a Pathological Narcissist chuck full of an unbridled HATE
    ........................................................... and SO "Absurdly" refuses to accept Reality as IT IS
    .............................................................................................................................................................. [​IMG]



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    Putinist sure do love their fake photoshops. Heck, half the time they show Russian neo-Nazis then lie and try to claim they are Ukrainian.
     
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    An Ultra Loud Announcement Blares Out over the PA system
    Of the "Consumer's Paradise Corporation's" flagship USA store

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    Attention Shoppers ! - Auchtung Security ! - Be Aware & Beware !
    "There are at least TWO lost & misguided little monsters in Pathological Narcassitic DENIAL "
    running lose in the Forums section and are SCREAMING their demented delusions,

    They insist
    -- that hard core, solidly established reality is in Fact NOT Real !" -- and that AZOV
    & Right Sector NAZI 's who in the past have publicly celebrated their NAZI Ideology
    ........................................................................................................... are in FACT NOT NAZI's" . [​IMG]

    "Would someone please intervene before they hurt themselves and make US look BAD "
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    Well its been a few hours
    I think their Mommy must have found the little Cretins,
    ................................... and told them to Shut the F'k UP :)
     
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    I see your mommy hasn't found you yet.

    Someone call security?
     
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    For someone so obsessed with color detail, you sure do like to paint with a broad brush.
     
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    The AZOV, Right Sector etc -- color :icon_shithappens: themselves with the brush they use.

    They, in the recent past, have admitted their allegiance and have more recently
    been .told the "Shut the F'k Up !" by their - American - Puppet Masters
    As they were disturbing the sensibilities of not only their Jewish constituency,
    ..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ...... but indeed the conscience of all Sane & Fair minded people .


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    Myself -- I use a very sharp pointed,
    razor honed, Reality hardened, Truth tempered word Brush

    Very different from the one used by AZOV, Right Sector etc -
    ............................... & the misguided people who support them
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    Their Brush
    will not even allow them to perceive simple FACTS that call their
    ....................................................... Gross Absurdities into Question
     
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    Great historical video showing the crimes of the OUN and Bandera scum. As Putin says at the end of the video, these are the 'heroes' celebrated in ukraine.

    https://twitter.com/DAVID_STOIC1/status/1670444887274078208?t=pTu7hr2BocWDnUfARnpUgg&s=19

    video is about 4 1/2 minutes long....for you Bandera supporters....see what you worship
     
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    Bandera was a Uke nationalist Billy.....unlike your Soviet apparatchiks like Koba gruzin Stalin(Gruzin), Beria(Armenian), Dzherzhinsky(Polish Jew), Molotov (Jew), Kaganovitch (Ukrainian Jew), etc, and the rest of the zvolotch....who didn't have an ounce of Russki ethnicity.:lol:
     
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    Azov is just a bogeyman being used by the real naZis in this conflict. Same as the German Nazis used the Communists as a bogeyman. Even if Azov were half as bad as they pretend, it's still not large enough or powerful enough to warrant this massive invasion of Ukraine and attempt to topple its government and take control over its territory, let alone ruZZia's ceaseless attacks on cities and civilian infrastructure and the other atrocities its barbaric troops and mercenaries continue to commit there.

    That you support this fascist madness on any basis is simply appalling. You have no moral ground from which to attack anyone on any basis as long as you do.
     
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