Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History

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  1. Esau

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    English is not complex. Although Ido agree that Americans find it so, they all struggle with it, particularly "then" and "than". It's very rare isee an American using it correctly.

    Also English is a mix of Latin, norman, Celt and German. Our royal family is German, although our king is a descendant of Vlad the Impaler (Dracula). This is probably why the Brits hate the royal family, only the English like the royal family, generally speaking.
     
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    ....yeah....right.....
     
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    Idont capitalize I. Because Iam not important.
     
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    ...I was just pulling yer leggies....:)
     
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    Oh the days of friendly banter, good times
     
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    If one knows a bit about the history of England and the British Isles it will not be a surprise that English is a mix of the languages that you noted. I could argue as to how complex I believe English is based upon my observation of my parent’s experience learning English but we could be accused of going off topic. My parents were of the opinion that English was more complex than the two Slavic languages that they spoke. I do speak one of those languages but I am in no way a native speaker of their mother tongue.
     
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    Especially since the WWW exists, because most of the web is English speech and English text. :)
    Internet users are almost forced to learn English, if they don't want to stumble around the web like blind guys.

    I heard that learning German is not so easy for native English speakers. Is that true?
     
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    Laura Logan and Mike Flynn, some great sources there.

    If we were truly helping Nazi's Mike Flynn would be all in.

    100 pictures of Ukrainians with Nazi symbols doesn't mean anything to me. It just reminds me of a MAGA rally.
     
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    I am not sure!
     
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    Ukrainians during WW2 saw the Nazis as a chance to get rid of Bolshevism.
    They suffered a lot under ruZZkie rule but hadn't much knowledge of Nazism.
     
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    Central, Southern, and Eastern Ukraine suffered under Bolshevism from the close of the civil war and the “peace” after WWI until 1991. Western Ukraine fell under Polish rule which got more and more oppressive until the Germans invaded in 1939. Of course in 1939 the Soviet Russians invaded Western Ukraine as you of course know. Therefore all of Ukraine fell under Bolshevik terrorism. The Germans appeared to be “good guys” at first.
     
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    I'm of Polish descent. My grandparents are fiery RuZZian haters, but they never gave a damn about Nazis (they're neither Jews nor communists).

    I never understood why they hate Russians so much, but now I'm slowly becoming like them. :)
     
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    I wouldn't say that. Although it is a bit intimidating for the beginner. English doesn't have multiple cases or gender based definitive objects, just "the." The US government rates German as a level 2 difficulty for native English speakers to learn,

    For perspective, level one would be Spanish and Dutch, Level 3 would be Persian Farsi and Russian, and Level 4 would be Chinese and Korean.
     
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    Of course not.. You write nonsense not me.
     
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    I thought Flynn was a Putin Puppet ? Now he has gone to the Nazi Dark side ? I tell ya... the identity politics never ends with the woksters.. When in doubt .. just label them a "Nazi" -- "Putin Apologist" ---- "Anti Semite" --- We know the drill aye Whodot :)
     
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    Yea, Flynn is a disgrace. I try to call him bad names to trigger his fans. I will call him anything I want, and there isn't anything that can be done to stop it. Mike Flynn is the enemy of the people.
     
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    Speaking plainly of the present use of NAZI symbolism

    ... The NAZI SS Origins of The Ukrainian Trident Symbol
    No doubt, Born out of the Hate engendered by the Atrocities of the Stalinist Holodomore
    But as HATE goes, it none the less, unavoidably smears itself with NAZI filth
    ............................... [​IMG]



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    Well FACT is: :)
    There certainly were when IT was ORIGINALLY appropriated,
    adopted & used by the Ukrainian NAZI SS and is so used
    to this day. And to believe &/or deny otherwise is to believe an
    ............................................................................................ Absurdity .... LOL :D

    When You attempt to defend that Symbol you color and smear yourself
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    Pooteen's Muscovites are terrified of Nazis. They believe that Nazi have magical powers. :D

     
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    [​IMG]That the BEST YOU can do ? [​IMG]
    Try Dealing With the uncomfortable FACT
    That the Ukraine presently flys under a known
    ....................................................NAZI Symbol

    REVIEW
     
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    What is that symbol over the blue and yellow banner?

    Looks like a spoon in a bottomless cup?
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:....so the Trident is some sort of "Nazi symbol".....wow!!....you agents never cease to disappoint.....what's next??

    Please...do tell....I need my humor fix for the day??

    Desperation is certainly in the air....LOL!!!
     
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    "Enemy of the People" ? Where are you getting this from .. What did Flynn do to deserve this nasty monicker .. did he criticize the woke Joke ?

    I know he was a hero of the People when serving at the DIA -- Gave Obama a Heads up on the formation of ISIS in Syria...

    Bama didn't listen but, at least Flynn Tried .. even though Obama Lied .. a true disgrace - enemy of the people. Looks like you got your colors mixed up somewhere in the mix .. downside up is the partisan perspective .. soon don't know right from wrong no more.
     
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    Flynn is a traitor and should be stripped of his citizenship.
     

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