Neely was a threat and a danger to everyone around him

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  1. Alwayssa

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    Actually, it was Ronald Reagan who called for this, and it was a PBS report on what went on inside the insane asylums that caused everyone to take notice and think again about forcing people into insane asylums who were not even convicted. In those days, your physician could do it, a family member can do it, and the courts were more than willing to do it. It was mostly raced based where people of autism and other mental disorders were sent and pretty much kept there with no hope and illegal experimentation.
     
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    DISPATCHES FROM THE BLUE ZONES: Witness Says Daniel Penny Is a Hero: ‘We Were Scared for Our Lives.’

    Too much of the Left wants you helpless before felons.

    We went to professional law enforcement, not just to protect us from criminals, but also to protect criminals from us. This not being our profession, mistakes can be made.

    We warned the Left as they attacked law enforcement and promoted felon friendly prosecutors, that this would increase the danger to felons from law abiding citizens, as well as increase the danger to law abiding citizens. Factor that out, and you are left with, these Left wing social policy goals have increased the danger to everyone. And if the destruction of our civil society is their goal, they are fine with that.

    'According to a retiree who witnessed the incident where Marine veteran Daniel Penny put Jordan Neely, a deranged homeless man who was threatening passengers, in a chokehold on a New York subway train earlier this month, not only is Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg wrong for prosecuting him, but Daniel Penny is a hero for his actions.'

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    Hero being attacked by evil Soros-Puke Bragg.

    HE WAS THERE FOR HER WHEN DANGER CAME

    '“He’s a hero,” said the passenger, a minority woman who has resided in New York City for over five decades. She told Fox News Digital, “It was self-defense, and I believe in my heart that he saved a lot of people that day that could have gotten hurt.”'

    CRAZED OUT OF HIS MIND ON GOD KNOWS WHAT

    'Multiple witnesses have said that Neely had persistently tried to shove unsuspecting individuals onto subway tracks. It took three good Samaritans to subdue him.'

    HE WAS MAKING CRAZED THREATS

    '“I’m sitting on a train reading my book, and, all of a sudden, I hear someone spewing this rhetoric. He said, ‘I don’t care if I have to kill an F, I will. I’ll go to jail, I’ll take a bullet,’” the witness recalled.'

    THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS RETREATED AS FAR AS THE WALLS WOULD ALLOW, AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO RETREAT FURTHER.

    'At that point, terrified passengers crowded by the exit doors in the hopes of escaping Neely, which wasn’t possible.'

    “I’m looking at where we are in the tube, in the sardine can, and I’m like, ‘OK, we’re in between stations. There’s nowhere we can go,’” she said. “The people on that train, we were scared. We were scared for our lives.”

    'Penny only took action when Neely began using threatening language such as “kill” and “bullet.”'

    AT THAT POINT HE ENGAGED THE THREAT

    'She expressed that Penny’s actions were driven by his care for people, which she considered his only “crime.” Several passengers, including herself, thanked Penny for his intervention.'

    'the witness noticed that Penny appeared shaken after the altercation. She emphasized that Penny had no intention of causing harm or killing Neely, which was evident from his distraught and visibly distressed state. Despite the distress, Penny chose not to flee the scene but stayed until the authorities arrived.'

    I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS OF THIS BRAVE YOUNG MAN WHO SERVED IN OUR NATION'S UNIFORM.

    But, the Evil Bragg will extract his pound of flesh.
     
  3. Zorro

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    It was also ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
     
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    2nd Degree Manslaughter it is.

    'Daniel Penny indicted by grand jury in Jordan Neely subway death'

    Source: NBC News

    New York City grand jurors on Wednesday indicted Daniel Penny in the death of fellow subway rider Jordan Neely, according to two sources familiar with the matter. The death last month has been a lightning rod on issues of mental health, crime and race.

    The 24-year-old Marine veteran was indicted on a second-degree manslaughter charge in the May 1 confrontation with the homeless man, the sources said. A representative for Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg declined to comment on the matter to NBC News. A spokesperson for Penny declined to comment to NBC News on Wednesday.

    Penny and Neely were on an F train in Manhattan when Neely began engaging in "somewhat aggressive speech," witness Juan Alberto has told NBC New York.

    Neely told passengers that “he was hungry, he was thirsty, that he didn’t care about anything, he didn’t care about going to jail, he didn’t care that he gets a big life sentence,” Vasquez said.'

    Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/daniel-penny-indicted-jordan-neely-subway-death-rcna89321
     
  6. Tucsonican

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    Ridiculous that he's charged.

    Here's a link to the jury instructions for a 125.15 violation - https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/125/125-15.pdf
     
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    THIS! 100% EXACTLY! People in NYC are mostly already in the mindset of "being a good guy not worth it" but this just cements it 100%
    This is what BLUE HELL HOLES look like and its coming to a town near you SOON
     
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    No one will ever want to attempt to prevent a nut job from getting violent in NYC.
     
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    Nope.
    Penny was even warned ( audio is on video) by a bystander that he was killing Neely and Penny continued his chokehold.
    Just like Chauvin, ignored the warning.
    Plus Penny knew chokeholds can be deadly/

    'Under our law, a person is guilty of Manslaughter in the Second Degree when that person recklessly causes the death of another person'.

    !!! 'and when he or she is aware of and consciously disregards that risk'
     
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    Oh there we go. All black people are George Floyd!!!

    Neely was threatening and menacing people on the train and those people had no means to escape him. Restraining Neely was justifiable under that circumstance. The application of a choke hold does not present a "substantial" risk of death and even if it did present such a "substantial" risk then Penny would need to be aware of that. While Penny's action may have been seen as "unreasonable" by one or more people in that train car it, obviously, wasn't seen as unreasonable by others.

    Bragg's office seems to have a penchant for prosecuting obvious self defense cases and that's what's happening here. In Manhattan, the DA WILL charge you with a crime if you defend yourself or others. Their preference is to allow criminal behavior as long as that behavior is conducted by blacks.
     
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    'Daniel Penny and other bystanders who pinned down Jordan Neely during their fatal encounter on Monday were warned by another person on the New York subway that they were "going to kill him," a video obtained by the Daily Mail shows. Penny did not heed the warnings.'May 5, 2023

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    VIDEO: Daniel Penny Ignores Bystander's Warning ... - Insider

    • A bystander can be heard telling people that Jordan Neely may die in a longer video of the incident.
    • The bystander noted that Neely had defecated, which indicates someone may be close to dying.
    • Insider identified Marine veteran Daniel Penny as the man who put Neely in the chokehold.
     
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    Does Daniel Penny have a gofundme or anything? This man is a HERO!
     
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    GoFundMe is very liberally biased and often refuses to pay out funds for conservatives and issues conservatives care about so they use GiveSendGo.

    https://www.givesendgo.com/daniel_penny
     
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    Dude.

    I'm not sure how you define "hero" , but this poor son of a bxxxx penny is not a hero.

    A martyr maybe, but no hero. If Neely lived, then penny would be a hero.
     
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    Shades of Chauvin ,they just couldn't stop even after these men's bodies were lifeless.


    upload_2023-11-16_9-25-26.png ABC News
    Daniel Penny applied 6-minute chokehold on Jordan Neely as witness accounts differ on threat: Prosecutors
    17 hours ago

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    upload_2023-11-16_9-25-26.png NY Post
    Ex-Marine Daniel Penny should have known chokehold would kill Jordan Neely because of military training, warnings: prosecutors
    14 hours ago
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    upload_2023-11-16_9-25-26.png Daily Mail
    Ex-Marine Daniel Penny put Jordan Neely in six-minute fatal chokehold on NYC subway - and some witnesses 'unde
    12 hours ago

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    upload_2023-11-16_9-25-26.png CNN
    Daniel Penny’s lawyers ask judge to dismiss case as NYC subway passengers describe fear in court filing
    1 month ago
     
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    Hire Daniel Penny to ride the subway and keep the peace.
     
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    Just like bystanders told Chauvin, "you're killing him" when suspect's bodily functions were released.
    Both Chauvin and Penny ignored bystanders and both ended up charged with killing a man.
    Both Floyd and Neely were subdued and had 3 men on them.
    **** Chuvin & Penny.

    'Judge DENIES Daniel Penny's request to have charges dropped over Jordan Neely's chokehold death and says autopsy PROVES he killed him'
    • Penny's lawyers asked judge to dismiss charges last year citing Neely's 'insanely threatening' behavior on train
    • Witnesses said it was 'absolutely traumatizing' and that they were in fear
    • Penny held onto Neely on train for more than six minutes in a chokehold
    By JEN SMITH, CHIEF REPORTER and BETHAN SEXTON FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

    PUBLISHED: 10:19 EST, 17 January 2024 | UPDATED: 12:56 EST, 17 January 2024


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ter-charges-chokehold-death-Jordan-Neely.html
     
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    Looks like Mr. Penny has the wrong skin color to get dismissed there.
     
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    No, he was just pointing out it is utter bullshit.

    And I have no respect for any color person that's acting crazy and threatening to kill people. FAFO.
     
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    I respect most lives (based on merit, not looks how the left judges people)
    If they were both white this would not be in the news.
    If the races were reversed, this would not be in the news.
    This case has race hustle written all over it.
    Also, learn some manners and keep your nasty ASSumptions to yourself. Trying to imply I don't respect life is low, unnecessary and I'm sure also not in accordance with the rules.
    Good day.
     
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    Penny should prep himself and become pen-pals with Derek Chauvin.

    'Ex-Marine Daniel Penny should have known chokehold would kill Jordan Neely because of military training, warnings: prosecutors'


    snip:

    'One witness said they were initially grateful for Penny’s intervention, but thought the “nature and duration of the hold verged on overkill,” Steinglass wrote.

    “The hold seemed so unnecessary at that point that an eyewitness can be heard on video urging the defendant to let go of Mr. Neely and warning the defendant that ‘If you don’t let him go now, you’re going to kill him,’” according to the court document.'

    https://nypost.com/2023/11/15/metro...ry-training-warnings-from-others-prosecutors/
     
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    One guy was in cuffs and subdued. The other was a completely different scenario. Chauvin was clearly abusing his power. Maybe the left just views it based on who was what color (thats the only similarity). Funny though, it seems like the person who STARTS it is always usually the same race. I'm sure just a coincidence though.
     
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    How did you get THAT from THAT comment? NYC is race hustle central. Also have you ever ridden the NYC subway? If not, you should go try it sometime. Make sure to be really nice to all the people that harass you and if you put any of them in a chokehold for self defense, please verify they are white first (that could mean the difference between self defense or HATE CRIME in crappy, BLUE S-hole, race hustling NYC
     

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