Newsmax Host Celebrates ‘Total Annihilation’ of Gaza: ‘It’s Exactly What They Deserve’

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  1. flyboy56

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    sure they give a strong statement but it always ends with "but". Listen to Eric Adams speech and you will understand what it means to fully support Israel. There is no "but" in his speech.
     
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    I'm not hearing the "but". I have never seen any admin come out with such strong support for Israel, so your claim that they are somehow anti-Israel makes ZERO sense. That talking point is not working.
     
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  3. Arkanis

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    Are you complaining that the Liberals don't support Ukrainians enough?

    It is the Conservatives who want the US to withdraw its support.


    Republicans are turning against aid to Ukraine
     
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    No one could be bending over backwards for Israel if they should also take into account your second sentence. Marxist lefties always follow their statement of support for Israel followed by "but". Watch Eric Adams speech in support of Israel to understand what true support for Israel looks like. Unfortunately for the big tent party they have allowed Jew haters in. Diversity at it's finest.
     
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    I heard you the 1st time. Sorry to say, but you come across desperately partisan trying to paint the admin as anti-Israel, when the opposite is true. Anyone who is truly pro-Israel should appreciate the response, and Israel certainly appreciates it. You are only damaging your own reputation with these comments and trying to insert the "marxist" into every post isn't helping either.

    Your approach is as misguided as if someone accused the GOP for being anti-Israel because some RW folks scream "Jews will not replace us". It doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Blinken's first response to the terrorist attack was for Israel to seek peace. He has taken that post down. Biden is trying to tell Netanyahu how to respond to the attacks which is restraint. What restraint was used after our 9/11 attack when we hit Afghanistan and Iraq? The Biden administration is showing weakness in the ME which will only embolden more attacks on Israel. Israel is not intentionally targeting civilians the way Hamas did. And they boldly posted the attacks on social media.
     
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    Dude.....whatever gets you thought the night.

    There is nothing else to say here.

    This is what bitter partisan anger does to people.
     
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    No one hates Jews and Christians more than a Marxist commie because they cannot be influenced by their hate filled doctrine. If they cannot be converted then they must be destroyed. We are seeing the battle between good and evil being played out. "Queers for Palestine." The ignorance of the Marxist left is extraordinary.
     
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    You think this is a partisan issue? Many Jews are Democrats. Are they being partisan when they support Israel 100%? I think it's you who is having a difficult time hearing the truth.
     
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    While I agree their statements (overall) have been very supportive of Israel. With that being said, I don’t think their actions are. They’re in full throated support for Israel but they’re trying to minimize their response.

    and I’m sorry but if we were in Israel’s position and someone just did this to us… I would want them wiped out of existence and hunted down like the animals they are including anyone who gave them any sort of aid as well as anyone who tried to stop me.
     
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    I'm saying the Marxist left are confused. They support Ukraine but also support Palestine which is also supported by Russia which should come as no surprise when you consider the Soviet Union influenced Arabs in the ME with their Marxist indoctrination. It was an easy target for the Soviet Union between Arabs had already been taught for centuries to hate Jews.
     
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    I tell you what I’d do. If I was Netanyahu I would get on television to the world and tell them. Everybody, civilians and terrorists alike will have free passage out of Gaza under armed security with not a hair on their heads harmed for 30 days.

    After that 30 days if anyone remains in Gaza and they’re breathing they will be declared an enemy and will be treated as such. Anybody. Dogs, birds and insects including. If it breathes and it’s not an Israeli, it’s going to die. And we are taking Gaza as our own permanently so this will not happen again.

    And if anybody has a problem with that, just show up in Gaza in 30 days.
     
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    Interesting point since we do know liberals including the Biden Admin. are in full support of Ukraine even when they know civilians are being slaughtered. Yet when it comes to Israel they want restraint and constantly bring up the fact civilians will be slaughtered if Israel starts the ground attack on Gaza City.
     
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    How so? We sent a carrier battle group right off the bat, and now another one is on the way. Se sent munitions to replenish the Iron Dome, and special forces to help with hostage rescue. We have US cabinet members all over the region and presidential visit coming up, all pledging to give Israel whatever they need. I am not young, and I have never seen US go so much All-In with support for them. What else could US do?

    Israel is going to take down Hamas, and they have US backing to do so.

    That would take care of the ones who stay and try to fight, but at the same time it would give Hamas a chance to escape with the refugees. That's is the challenge. IMO they should let women and children out, and tell civilian men to stay in South Gaza. Then they can wipe out the armed terrorists in North Gaza, and after that interrogate the civilian men in the South.

    Not to me, but obviously it is to you. Just read your own comments. They are desperately partisan to a point where they don't even make any sense.
     
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    Netanyahu will never allow terrorists to escape from Gaza and he should not.
     
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    Such partisan vitriol you have! Are you as angry and the "Gas the Jews" chants occurring world wide? Are you as angry at the nations that think Israel should be wiped off the map? Does those who say the Holocaust never happened anger you as much as the dolt you posted?

    Funny how the world is for Palestine... yet, no one will let them into their country during these dire straits! Why is that do you think?
     
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    What's marxisism for you?

    You use terms that you don't know the definition of.

    Do you have at least the beginnings of proof of what you are saying?

    71% of American Jews are Democrats.

    67% of Liberals have sympathy for Israel.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/15/politics/cnn-poll-israel-hamas-war-americans/index.html
     
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    The only thing the carrier groups are doing is acting as a deterrent. It’s not to support Israeli operations. With that being said, I agree they’re supportive but I disagree with attempting to minimize any response by the Israelis.
     
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    Do you enjoy seeing Palestinian civilians (not Hamas) being killed?

    Are you writing while drunk?

    It's not because I want as few collateral victims as possible that I am for the holocaust.
     
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    I would think most of the hardcore ones would stay. But even if they left, that puts Israel in a position where they can just guard their borders and have minimal strife within said borders.
     
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    I actually might prefer your idea better. I just don’t want anyone making excuses as to why civilians couldn’t get out in 30 days. And I don’t want women and children crying about how they couldn’t leave their dads or granddads who were innocent civilians.
     
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    Now there's where you're wrong-- at least according to our Israeli member, @Pisa. He contends that it is only Israel's indiscriminate killing of non combatants, which gains Palestinian respect. If Israel were to actually be concerned about not killing innocent civilians, that weakness, would cause Palestinians to become terrorists. At least that's how the theory was explained. I can't figure out why, then, the terrorism problem would've gotten worse, and not better, over the past couple of decades of Israel winning respect, by not overly wringing their hands, over collateral Palestinian deaths.

    For better or-- as Pisa must see it-- for worse, Israel does seem to have modified its original attitude. Instead of levelling entire rows of buildings, I hear they have moved to targeting individual apartments-- who knew the could do such a thing! And the ridiculous, original 24 hours notice for evacuation of all of Gaza City, to move to southern Gaza, has obviously stretched much longer; Israel has even broken down and given Palestinians some 3-hour windows to move through a corridor of land, with the guarantee that Israeli pilots won't blow them up. How could Palestinians possibly have any respect left, for Israelis?
     
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    Ok. I don't know what "attempting to minimize any response" means when US has agreed Israel needs to go into Gaza and clean house.

    All in all, I think US is doing a good job helping Israel so far.

    Yes, because Hamas WANTS civilian casualties, so they can play the victim and garner support. Take the civilians off the table, and then its just them (the terrorists) and they are fair game.
     
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    Well I guess what I’m referring to is the talk by Biden and others referring to how Israel has to follow the rules of war. Which is simply a way to say minimize the damage so that you can spare as many civilians as possible. Hence why I said give them 30 days to get out and anyone who remains is a combatant.

    Because if I’m Israel I don’t consider a single person in Gaza a civilian including the ones I would let leave (outside of the children). Why? Because they have remained in Gaza supporting, either explicitly or implicitly, the Hamas animals who just came in and raped murdered tortured and kidnapped women and children and the elderly with the FULL KNOWLEDGE that those animals want to completely eradicate the israeli people. Those vile creatures have abandoned any rules of warfare and so must Israel if they expect to win.
     
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    There’s only one thing that crazy people understand. And that’s when someone else is more crazy than they are. And after what they did to Israel and those children and babies and raping daughters and wives in front of their families before they beheaded them, the only way to deal with crazy people is to out-crazy them.

    If this was anytime in history before the 1800’s, those actions would have resulted in a full scale war of annihilation to wipe out any man, woman or child who even remotely resembled the people who did those atrocities. I’m not saying it’s right but there’s a reason that’s how our ancestors acted. Because in order to deal with crazy people, you have to be willing to be more crazy than they are. Or you’re gonna lose.
     
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