NFL Protest Had It's Day

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  1. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The players protests have probably cost those whose income is dependent on the popularity of the NFL MORE than $250K total.

    But the left in this country simply doesn't care about the working people any longer. It just becomes more apparent every day. You think this isn't going to be an issue in 2018 and 2020?

    The left just winds up on the wrong side of America in *every* dispute any more. Abortion, immigration, respect for the flag, Obamacare, Russian collusion, taxes, and on and on and on ......

    When are they going to wake up? Ever?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I sold a home both to and for a then starting NFL player. He made sure the women in his Porsche were white women. I last saw the Porsche in his garage with flat tires. I swear it had flat tires. When I rode in his car, he was ultra careful not to be on roads with gravel. I was amazed he had let the car drift into such poor condition.

    We did not discuss politics. I try not to with my black clients. Some of them are cool. I did talk though to his brother Rick about discrimination and tried to show him how nature provides it as a defense. Kind of like how a dog barks. He does not stop to think about why he barks, he just barks. We discriminate due to it being a very old trait from thousands of years ago. We find some do not discriminate but they are not following nature, they are following a perhaps more enlightened stage, something they learned.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you worry about Trump? Why make him such a part of your life? I make him part of mine since I voted for him and accept him as president and have a bit of comprehension over the job he does. I am so relieved to not have Obama. Really, he was the danger to this nation. What with him bowing to world leaders. What a shock.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of my Warriors basketball team have shamed the team. They really wanted Trump to be shamed? Trump gave them the finger.
     
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    Fake? You mean he didn't actually walk out?
     
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    Strange that those that are infuriated about the kneeling never served in the military themselves, they think waving the flag while grunting USA USA USA is patriotism

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump does not push off from the table all that much it looks like. But you knew the Democrat posted that to upset the forum.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same folks who hate Trump over him having legal deferments loved and defended Bill Clinton who promised an Army officer to show up on time, then gave the officer his middle finger and fled to England. Funny innit how they appreciate Clinton but hate Trump.

    http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
     
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    But, there is proof--all you have to do is get on twitter,here's a hint though,you will be scrolling all day & into the night on this subject----just saying----
    Ok, lets just take a look here--this trip was pre-planned ( White House confirmed this)
    Pence presents a photo with a quip that's says something like this-"-at stadium on Payton's day", except it was a photo from 3 years ago, (weird,huh,) the reporters on the bus were told "don't bother to get off the bus,this isn't going to take that long" mmmmm-what could that possibly mean? Pre-planned walk out---
    trump tweets something like " I told Pence to do this" -----
    And it is trump who started this whole disrespecting the flag bit---that is not why the players are taking a knee---so another misdirection from trump--
    Patriots,you say--if I thought for one minute these cads were sincere,I would give them the benefit of the doubt--- However,this was a political ploy at taxpayers expense---only a few of you were fooled---just saying----
    And here is another thing,Pence stopped off in Las Vegas before going to the game,if IMO he really cared, he could have or should have canceled the game & stayed in Las Vegas to comfort the victims families, after all,he said he was there on behalf of the president,which I guarantee would have lasted long into kick-off & well beyond---But, to make a brief stop in grief stricken Vegas,then on to a game to just then walk out at taxpayers expense sure doesn't sound like a patriot to me---Political trickery that didn't fool anybody ,but,you of course----
    So,I'm not the one fooling around with fake Patriotism----
     
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    I don't know many that think Pence played this as any spur of the moment type of setting, and not after Trump made his position on it known. Trump knew he was on the side of the majority of Americans with this issue.
     
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    "Hands up, don't shoot."

    ^ That is faux outrage.
     
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    I agree. But I'm not talking about that faux outrage. I'm talking about this one.
     
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    Particularly since Vietnam was a Democrat war - after LBJ promised absolutely he would not send troops to Vietnam in the election.
     
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    and you served when?
     
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    ALL partisans do faux outrage. However, when millions of the general public act on that outrage as has happened it isn't fake anymore, is it? While the acts of politicians are just just acts, the objection by the public isn't fake. On the opposite end, much of the anger by blacks themselves also is not faux outrage, though the political talking heads are just acting.

    The real question is whether the outrage/anger is justified, not whether it is real.

    Football is similar to attending theater or watching a movie. People who pay have expectations and can become very angry or disappointed if instead they spent their money on the opposite. Though certainly not all, NFL fans are a majority of white, male, conservative Republicans - and very pro-police, pro-flag and pro-patriotism. They honestly do not like NFL performances changed to begin with essentially protesting them, the police and the United States.

    It is easy to forget just how many Americans have friends and relatives who are or have been in the military and/or police to not understand the anger is real. Justified? That is debatable, but in terms of business may not matter. A bad reputation hurts business, whether fairly or unfairly.

    I think you would agree the team owners and coaches don't give a damn about the issues of the protest one way or another.

    To me, the injustice was the media NEVER pointing out that over 90% of the plays DID stand, until the owners came up with the extra dumb idea of having all players kneel before the national anthem, claiming it about team unity, when predictably the public saw it as the owners and entire team unifying to support the protest.

    They should have just reverted to the practice of the players coming out after the anthem as was undone until 2009 when the NFL made contracts with the military for advertising and the military wanted the players to be out for the anthem.
     
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    Perk......Cake. Mmmmm!

     
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    Millions acted on what? I watched the games yesterday on DirecTV. The stadiums were packed.
     
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    You are one of the most undocumented posters posting. A lot is said, no attempt to prove any of it.

    As to Pence, nobody doubts he and Trump talked it over. Trump says so. So what? Was it a secret malcontent NFL players shunned this nation?

    Folks, just what is the Anthem?

    Is it a ring around the roses song?

    It is over war. Combat at Maryland. At a fort with the British shelling Ft. McHenry where it was thought the Americans might cave in.

    We won.

    So to honor that win, the highly paid players crap on the flag? What the hell were they thinking?
     
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    :roflol:

    "Had it's day"? :roflol:

    Jerry Jones is a joke, and his comments don't change a thing.

    Players will continue to protest all they want.
     
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    If you support these clods, those who have no clue what the anthem is over, then pay to attend games. TV you can get up and walk into the back yard and smell the roses. I spent thousands of dollars on the NFL and Colin Kaepernick shamed my favorite team. Colin went to college. How can he not understand the anthem?
     
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    I see, we have a lot of posters who do not understand the Anthem of the USA. They think it has something to do with black men.
     
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    So just to make sure I understand what you are saying in regards to this issue. Jerry Jones was justified in taking no action when all of this started because doing so and punishing players may have contributed to revenue loss for both himself and his employees, correct?

    Now that he and his employees are losing revenue he is justified in taking action against his players to prevent further revenue loss, correct?
     
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    I was in Germany and getting to be a short timer. The Sgt who headed re-ups talked to me. He offered me a bonus to stay in plus promotion. My problem was to promote me, he had to offer me gold bars. Not E-5 stripes. I had a high paying job waiting for me to return in CA and Army pay was lousy. I made more per week in 1958 in construction than the Army paid me in January 1964 for a full month. And in 1964, my construction pay was a lot more than it was in 1958.

    So what was my feeling in January 1964 over Vietnam? Sure, in Germany I heard about the war. I read the Stars and Stripes. That is the paper we read in Germany folks. What was going on in 1964 prior to my discharge? The special forces were there helping the republic of Vietnam. Yes, I recall the shooting of the vietcong in the head by the South Vietnam officer. i recall the burning alive of the Buddhist monks. It was god awful to see.

    Here is what i expect to see Democrats do as they protest Donald Trump.

     
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    Ratings for NE-TB were down 12% this weekend. It just keeps on getting worse.

    Wake up and smell the roses.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Please quote where I said Pence protesting was not ok.
     

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