Nikki Haley says the RNC is ‘clearly not’ an honest broker after calls to unify around Trump in prim

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  1. FreshAir

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    the two are very similar, the RNC is trying to due to Haley what dems did to Bernie and Haley voters will remember come the General
     
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    I'm completely unsurprised that you were unable to answer the question.
     
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    He should KNOW where Niki's husband is. (It's called knwing everything you can about your opponant). And yes....Melania has been missing since he started to campaign ( well, he never stopped)
    But one can conclude that she was beside her ill mother and is now grieving for her loss. Interesting how he never mentions her or the loss of his mother in law.
    But then , why would a pathological narcissist concern himself with anyone other than himself?? Melania is arm candy.... and he will bring her out when it benefits him.

    Niki (of the two) would probably make a much better POTUS .....but something has changed so much now , and someone like Trump is favored. Superficial Showmanship and theater seems to work on many.
     
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    I think I heard Trump and Melania reworking or reworked their prenup, so we may see her more
     
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    I don't think anyone cares if she keeps running or not. She invalidated herself with the whole internet ID thing. No walking it back will make her seem like anything but the disingenuous raging authoritarian technocrat that she is. We've had enough of those.

    If you were hoping she'd take votes from Trump, I doubt it. She might take votes from Biden tho... She's the Dem's RFK- all her support comes from the other side of the aisle.
     
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    Neither is trump
     
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    If this continues I can only see a split in GOP.
     
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    Notice how you had no point and still do not?
     
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    do you want Putin and China and other countries posting as Americans on Social Media here, some people actually believe everyone they talk to on the internet that portrays themselves as American is American

    I do in the future see this as something that will be addressed by both parties, it will probably start as something to protect the children, but you can't protect the children unless you know who people are and their age - no different then having to show ID to buy a vape pen (no ID, assumed to be a child)
     
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    We have a guy here whose profile states that he is 33 years of age and yet the other day he told us that he has been practicing law for 33 years.

    Imagine that
     
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    yep, and if we create laws that you can't collect data on children... then sites have to know the real age of their posters if they collect data for targeted ads for instance - thus people like your example show a risk for sites if they do not know
     
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    And some people believe the govt and certified authorities wont or cant lie to them. Nothing we can do about lies but oppose them with the truth, and thats best accomplished by everyone being able to speak. Even 'Putin' and 'China'.

    I'd recommend you worry less about the source of the message and more on the message itself. How much sense it makes to you. Because anyone can lie to you. Even people who have been vetted by the authorities or certified as experts.
     
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    political propaganda can turn people against each other, destroy a country from the inside

    I am not worried about people like myself, I am worried about the idiots in the country that fall for stuff like "Q", I suggest you realize many people fall for this stuff if they think it's their fellow Americans telling them things, when it;s really Putin's folks, China's, India’s, whoevers
     
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    No more folks fell for 'Q' propaganda than fell for 'WMDs in Iraq.' Trying to ban propaganda just allows the folks with the power of regulation to have a monopoly on propaganda. Better that everyone can speak equally, than our awful govt gets to lie while silencing all its critics as 'malinformation' ...which btw is defined as truth that inflicts harm. Do you really want the organization that already labels truth as harmful to be able to silence other people?????
     
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    talk about preventing Putin and China from posting political propaganda here upsets some

    I think there should be sites where we know people are real, where they are from

    if you want to visit the dark web where people are anonymous, can do that too, but you should know it
     
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    Better that everyone can speak equally, than our awful govt gets to lie while silencing all its critics as 'malinformation' ...which btw is defined as truth that inflicts harm. Do you really want the organization that labels truth as harmful to be able to censor people?
     
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    the fact is, many people lie on the internet, some places should be safe from fake posters

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    Humans lie. Any place that promises you 'safety' from lies ...is the MOST LIKELY to be LYING to you.
     
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    do you want to make it easier for Putin and China to lie? To pretend to be Americans while doing it?

    like I said, if you want to visit the dark web where people are anonymous, can do that too, but you should know it

    but you're right, people can join a site pretending to be left or right, black or white, etc... and try to make themselves look bad, extreme, etc....

    they can even create another account with the opposite views and argue with themselves - trying to divide Americans, turn them against each other
     
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    No. And thats why I don't want to give anyone a monopoly on deciding what information is true and what is lies. For if we do, 'China and Putin' (and any other entity that seeks to deceive) will inevitably co-opt that authority and use it to lie with authority. I want NO VOICE to have authority over any other. Let all information be accessible and judged by the perciever. Thats the entire purpose of Free Speech.

    Who checks the fact chekcers? Who checks the fact checker's fact checkers? And so on. Do your own research ...or assume you are being lied to. Anything else is lazy, willful ignorance.
     
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    what monopoly, you can still go to the dark web for anonymity if you want it

    but if a site wants to collect personal data on you and sell it or use it to target you with ads, they have to verify you're not a child

    I would also like to see schools educate children on safety on the internet
     
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    Is 'FreshAir' your legal name? Assuming not, why arent you posting here under your full legal name?

    Are you working for Putin and China ;) (that's a joke btw)
     
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    your alias can be anonymous in the future too, just the site has to know who you really are to collect data on you
     
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    That's not what Nikki wants. Nikki Haley wants "some civility when people know their name is next to what they say, and they know their pastor and their family members are going to see it"

    So why are you here posting under a fake identity? Is it to spread 'Putin and China's malinformation and get away with incivility?
     
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    I think there should be sites like that, and think there will be, but as I have repeated over and over, you can still use the dark web if you want anonymity

    I think all network traffic from outside the USA should be tagged before it enters the USA's network, then that could be displayed by social media
     
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