No right is unlimited. There are no absolute rights

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  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    OK.
    That's it.
    If you can't discuss something without the aggressive fists-up tone, then I am out.
    Carry on with your crusade.
    It isn't mine.
    I really don't care that much.
     
  2. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    Then go to Canada.
    The entire country allows abortion.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    So? You can't answer a different question?

    So what question were you answering with your :
    ""Pixie said:
    The amount of guilt and regret of the mother.
    Because no one can ask the unborn child."""


    Oh for pete's sake...asking you a question about your post is ""aggressive fists-up tone"" ?

    Then maybe a discussion forum isn't your thing..or you have no answers...
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    Not every woman can afford to go to Canada....and America stands for freedom and rights which should be available for ALL Americans..
     
  5. Pixie

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    Go have your arguments with someone else.
    and don't taunt me.
    and don't play the "what if" game either.
    This is now the second time I have given you my answer in two threads about the same thing and you have ignored it.
    If you think the fetus is living, it has the same rights as the mother.
    If you don't think it is living, it doesn't.
    I have nothing more to say about your obsession.
    I have you on ignore.
     
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    :) Another one bites the dust .... no answers, no facts, no argument...:)
     
  7. TOG 6

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    And one of the things Roe allows the states to do is ban certain abortions.
    Thus, deny access.
     
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    And so, you DO understand the states have the power to prohibit a woman from getting an abortion.
    Good.
    As such, the right cannot be unlimited or absolute.
     
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    No right is unlimited or absolute. Not sure what the point is.
     
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    So, you're ok with stabbing the baby to death while the umbilical cord is attached? Or do they have to stab the baby in the head while it's crowning?
     
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    Currently, the official policy of the Democrats is that it is alright to stab the baby in the head while it's crowning. If the baby somehow survives that, the baby can still be executed outside the womb.
     
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    I'm ok with letting patients and doctors decide.
     
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    The pro-abortion people who claim the right to same is unlimited/absolute are wrong.
     
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    Who is claiming that it is an unlimited/absolute right?
     
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    See post #8 and 16.
     
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    yea it seems like you are caught up on the semantics of the word absolute.

    Post 16 is correct, that women can have an abortion after 8 or 9 months if her life is in danger. At least in most states, if not all.

    I don't think absolute and unlimited are the meaningful parts of post 8 either.

    No rights are absolute because rights only exist because we make them up.

    There is no absolute right to bear arms or even to life either.
     
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    "Semantics"
    In other words, I used the term correctly.
    Thank you
    Post 16:
    "Women should have the right to abortion at any time."
    That is... the right to an abortion is, or at least should be, unlimited and absolute
    Post #8
    "There are no limits to rights. A woman has an absolute right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..."
    Clearly, the poster believes the rights under discussion are unlimited and absolute, because he, literally, says so.

    You asked for examples. I delivered.
     
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    What is your point?

    All of our rights exist at the pleasure of the society we live in. Our society can decide anything it wants.

    Also, one of the posts says "should", that is clearly their opinion of how something "should" be, not how it is.
     
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    You asked that already.
    I told you.
    You asked for examples.
    I gave them.
     
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    I guess I just can't figure out why you think it has anything to do with whether or not abortion should be legal.

    There isn't anything to debate with respect to rights. All rights are made up.
     
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    I didn't make a statement either way.
    I only stated the obvious - and, to some, painful - truth.
    Which you agree with.
     
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    You're ok with crucifying 3-year-olds as long as the monster doing it is called a doctor. Got it.
     
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    You can believe whatever you want. it doesn't hurt my feelings.
     
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    That was your stated belief. If you don't like your stated belief, you're welcome to change it.
     
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