Noah Was A King Of Sumer

There were a number of statements in the post. Which do you refer to and why does it show a lack of understanding ?

 

Praying is "not" direct communication with the Holy Spirit. Direct communication on a daily basis is when the Holy Spirit talks back to the prayee.

I welcome the idea that someone has direct communication with God on a daily basis because if that were true then we could get answers to many a vexing question.

I did not call you a fraudster. That you refuse to provide evidence to back up your claims (by getting a few answers to questions from the Holy Spirit) makes me doubt your claim that you and God have daily chats but it does not prove that you do not.

Your suggestion that I try to talk to God myself does nothing to support your claim. That you try and avoid giving answers to questions by such diversionary tactics increases my doubt and further shows your inability to prove your claim of daily converstations with God.

Regardless, if you can not get answers to simple questions then your conversations with God are of little value.

 

If you have never experienced such an event, then how can you expound on the subject? Ignorance of the subject matter is your problem in this particular case.

Then quit rejecting the act and try it for yourself. But as long as you maintain that "if" attitude, don't expect an answer, Doubting Thomas.

The answer given to me was sent to you via my postings. Is it my fault that you reject the answer?

I don't make claims... I speak fact. Do you really think that I am concerned about whether or not you believe me? You are a sad case indeed, if you depend on other people to act as your mediator when the Holy Spirit is that perfect mediator.

At least I get answers and act upon them. You on the other hand are obviously afraid to get the answers yourself by the method and instructions that were given to you.

 

ROFL .. You are the one that argues that there is no "objective reality" aka - facts and now you claim to speak "facts". This is very hypocritical.

I have told you before that the Holy Spirit does not communicate directly with me or anyone else that I have ever known.

You claim to be able to get answers but can provide none. I do not think you get answers at all.

 

1: I have not denied 'objective reality': I deal with it everyday in all that this physical body encounters. I merely suggest that you cannot prove objective reality, because in that proving process, you must incorporate the subjective and any thing that you say about this 'objective reality' is only a subjective rendering or translation of what you perceive that objective reality to be. Therefore, objective reality as expressed by anyone, is a subjective thing.

And you err in your observation and comments regarding that observation. The Holy Spirit does in fact talk to you and everyone else everyday. You simply do not recognize His voice and therefore WILL not to hear His responses or His speaking.
"Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. "

"Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3875&t=KJV

That seems to be your major problem. You "..do not think.." And if you do think, you are not thinking with a 'renewed' mind.

 

You have questioned the validity of the yardstick on numberous occasions in numerous posts. You have stated nothing can be proved and you have stated that you do not believe in Science, Archaeology, History, Logic, Mathematics and so forth because "nothing can be proven in Science" .

Suggesting that objective reality cannot be proved is the same as denying the validity of objective reality.

Claiming that objective reality is "subjective" "is" denying objective reality.

 

Quite trying to twist my words around:

Read it again:

"I have not denied 'objective reality': I deal with it everyday in all that this physical body encounters. I merely suggest that you cannot prove objective reality, because in that proving process, you must incorporate the subjective and any thing that you say about this 'objective reality' is only a subjective rendering or translation of what you perceive that objective reality to be. Therefore, objective reality as expressed by anyone, is a subjective thing."

Learn to read comprehensively.

 

No links, no proof, just more of your opinions

 

http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm

 

No you are referring to daily communication which is what the Bible teaches

 

Praying is direct communication with a Triune God. All three parts know and hear your prayers.

 

Talking to God is prayer. God talking to you is schizophrenia. It's a well known quote, and seems apt in the circumstances. As for a triune God, that seems to be having your cake and eating it. Claiming monotheism, but keeping three.

 

Those same psychologists that like to use the term schizophrenia also use another set of terms like "id, ego and superego" and at the same time refer to those three as 'one'. Even the common man will make reference to "me, myself and I".... LOL,

 

It is not I that lacks comprehension, it is you that lacks comprehension of your own words.

I shall try to help. Please see your words in bold

Claiming objective reality "is a subjective thing" is denying objective reality.

As soon as you say that all reality is "subjective" then there is no such thing as objective reality by definition.

 

1) How do you know that all 3 parts hear prayer ?
2) Even if God does hear this is not direct communication because unless God talks back.

 

Where does that cognizance have its birth? Well of course.... in the mind... thus making whatever is re-cognized a subjective activity or thing. If it does not appear in the subjective mind, then and only then does it not exist.

And you see, with a statement such as yours above, it becomes clear that you are not aware of the workings of the subjective mind. Awareness... my friend..."To be aware is to be alive". Aware in all of the most exaggerated means. Did you hear your heart beat?

 

Your post completely avoids discussing the topic at hand .. we can not move on to awareness until you can distinguish between objective and subjective reality.

So far you have denied that there is such a thing as objective reality by saying that all reality is subjective.

If you disagree with the above quote, then state what your disagreement is.

 

So far, all you have done is misrepresented what I have said. You also have not shown where I made such statements of denial. You have only presented your own perception of what I have said. So, if there is a question about your perception of what I have said, then perhaps we should explore why you misrepresent the actual statements that I have made.

See my comment above.

 

I have not misrepresented anything that you have said.

Your words not mine: "You cannot prove objective reality"

How can there be proof of anything if objective reality can not be proven ?


How can reality be objective if "reality as expressed by anyone is a subjective thing" ?

Something that is subjective "by definition" is not objective.

 

Gifedone, is it safe to say that God talks back in the form of insight ? A silent voice of reason ?

 

All three know what the other knows. Can you show proof otherwise.

God does talk back.

 

I found some more Biblical support of what "born again" means opposed to it meaning when you die and ressurect...

1 Peter 1:3-5
New International Version (NIV)


Praise to God for a Living Hope
3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

 

http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/flyer.htm

 

Now, our creationists love to point to the existence of "flood" stories, similarly far removed from the fanciful account in the bible, as evidence that there was a world wide flood that impressed and is recounted by people all over the world.

Do you suppose they all have the same origin?

 

There have been localized floods everywhere over time.. I just don't believe there was a world wide flood that exceeded the height of all the mountains..

I find this account plausible because I have been reading the History or Sumer since 1980.