Noah's Flood part II

I did read what you posted and you contradict yourself, sea water that falls back to earth not only land on the sea but on dry land as well and for the dry land to stay dry it must be able to drain those rain water back to the sea any rain water that pools on dry land because it can not find its way back to the sea become a body of water itself a lake or the Black Sea as an example.

Alpha gave a very poor example because he think that his butt has a flying monkey do you agree with his example? I won't be surprise if you do.

 

There isn't enough water in the atmosphere to cover the planet. There isn't enough water in ice to cover the planet. There isn't enough water to cover the planet and its mountains on this planet.

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And why wouldn't the water from the rain be able to drain back into the various bodies of water?

 

You seem to have developed your own versions of most scientific principles....unfortunately, they are seriously flawed.

 

I haven't contradicted myself at all.It's simply that your intellect is lacking. Of course water collects in 'lakes'. Once that lake is full it overflows and the water makes its way downwards through streams and rivers to the oceans. And the Black Sea is connected to the Mediterranean sea which is connected to the Atlantic ocean. Therefore the Black sea is at sea/ocean level.
YOU CANNOT COVER ALL THE LAND ON EARTH WITH WATER FROM THE OCEAN. RAIN COMES MOSTLY FROM THE OCEAN. TO COVER JUST THE LOWER THE MOUNTAINS ON EARTH YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE WATER FROM THE OCEANS AND THAT WOULD LEAVE A DRY SEA BED. TO COVER THESE MOUNTAINS YOU WOULD NEED A FORCE FIELD TO PREVENT THE WATER RUNNING BACK INTO THE EMPTY OCEAN BED DUE TO WATER FINDING ITS OWN LEVEL THROUGH GRAVITY.

SO the questions are, Did God build a force field? What happened to the sea creatures without a sea? Why didn't God simply put Noah and the animals safely on the sea bed instead of bothering with an Ark? Why go to all the trouble of flooding the earth. Why not just 'uncreate' man and leave Noah's family and the animals alone?

And Alphas post made perfect sense. Enormous changes in the earths crust, moving weight around, has shifted the Earths axis in the past.

If what I described above happened there would be a massive shift of weight as Alpha says.

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There isn't enough water on the planet or in the atmosphere to cover the Earth. It would be impossible to rain for 40 days and 40 nights at the level required to flood the entire planet and its mountains. This is why Young Earth Creationists have come up with the "Vapor Canopy" theory which posits that there was a thick layer of water vapor around the planet that allowed it to rain non-stop until the planet was flooded.

 

This individual apparently either does not, or cannot research very basic and fundamental Earth Science data and there seems no hope of educating him on it. Further attempts to "guide" him to understanding is pointless .....thus I have stopped trying.

 

i could direct you to the person who believes that the extra water was wafted to Neptune, if you want to start over on a hopeless cause.

 

By definition, every 'pool' must be surrounded on its edges by a solid surface that rises above the water level of the pool. If Noah's flood covered the mountains, there was no such solid surface. Your argument fails abysmally, as per usual.

 

That sounds like fun.....direct away.

 

Scientist have already said and theorise there is enough water to drown the earth your choice not to accept it is yours.
Too much water the drainage system got overwhelm what can't go down rise up.

"It happen before it will happen before"
[video=youtube;YtZhPGo9wtw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtZhPGo9wtw[/video]

Your argument and disagreement is not with me but with actual science.

Tell that to the scientist what I have presented to you are works not form me but from scientist you can always write to them you know and see if you can convince them that they are wrong.

Do you think this is absurd?
[video=youtube;YrruvHNwGq4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrruvHNwGq4[/video]

 

It is not my version but science I am just presenting what is already out there and if you notice it none of those are from the Bible but from scientist.
[video=youtube;NPLcJQK25b8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPLcJQK25b8[/video]
[video=youtube;YtZhPGo9wtw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtZhPGo9wtw[/video]
Notice that all the scientific prediction is that earth will be cover by water unless humans do something to stop that from happening. We don't even need the Bible to warn us about a global flood, scientist are already doing that for us.

Education is what you need you can't even accept what basic science have taught you not even science from Steven Hawking can convince of anything except your own make believe science.

Don't stop trying, understand that I am only presenting what is already being presented by none religious scientist I have not been presenting anything from the Bible because the Bible has already reveal to us in general and simple terms that there was once a global flood while modern science has gone into details details that I was hoping you and your likes will understand but it is very disappointing not frustrating just disappointing and surprising that you guys don't and can't accept your own science teachings.!

 

Let us first be clear that your position is that Noah's flood is localised right, if that is so you do believe that Noah's flood did happened? Your argument is that Noah flood is impossible to be global. If that is the case I have no problem with that.

Now, if it rain torrential for 40 days and 40 nights you do believe there is that possibility that the earth will go under water that is if it rains for 40 days none stop, right?
You believe it is impossible to rain for 40 days because there is not enough water on earth that could have been evaporated or if it does those amount of water should find it's way back to the ocean, right? And yet do you accept the scientific theory of the origin of the universe and or the earth or not?
[video=youtube;YrruvHNwGq4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrruvHNwGq4[/video]
[video=youtube;G76QeE2kM98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G76QeE2kM98[/video]

The solid surface or the basin which rain water was supposed to flow or settle back was over whelm too much rain water not to mention other factors such as wind cause the waters to rise and cover the highest mountain is it impossible? Thousand of years ago it was impossible to fly,electricity was impossible, telephone was impossible, space travel was impossible, cure for tuberculosis and AIDS was impossible now all of those are not impossible in fact now our scientist are not and have not giving up on cancer cure. And when it comes to global flooding scientist do believe its possibility they just don't accept it as in reference to Noah's flood they have their own terms and hypothesis and predictions.

 

Which scientists said this? Please link to reputable scientific sources, not endless video spam.

 

Then why do you keep defending the position that the flood was global and covered all mountains?

Thousands of years ago, teleportation, psychic mind control and the Philosopher's Stone were all impossible. They remain impossible today.

 

I'm out of this. WarRen is incapable of understanding even the simple of facts and simple explanations. We all know there is not enough water on earth to create Noahs flood. Melting of all the ice on earth would raise the sea level by just over 200 feet. Low lying areas would be flooded, the rest safe.

ProfSarcastic says 'Psychic mind control is impossible'. Reading WarRens posting I'm beginning to wonder. Has the Catholic church developed a new science?

Good luck Prof., Taikoo and anyone else left.

 

No scientist has ever said this, and none ever will.....it would seem he considers the discovery channel to be a scientific journal, and entertainment television to be peer reviewed theory and data.

 

Hey when was the last time I tried to respond to one of his posts?
It is obviously pointless with someone who just make things up as it suits him.

 

If you consider these scientific videos produce and presented by the scientific community through the video producing companies as crap, noneducational and spam then that is your choice not mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrruvHNwGq4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtZhPGo9wtw

Remember it is the scientific community that are working hand in hand with modern engineers and world leaders to prevent a global flooding not the Catholic church. The Catholic church position is very simple global flood or world wide climatic disaster is real it happened before and it can happen again scientist and engineers are the ones that goes through the details.
[video=youtube;G76QeE2kM98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G76QeE2kM98[/video]

Do you consider Steven Hawking a scientist?
Since I have already share with you scientist who believe in global flooding, climate change and global warming and you chose not to accept them maybe you can share who you think are the scientist that say no such things?

At least we both agree that the Noah flood did occurred. I accept both theory that it is a regional flooding which you do too and I also accept the theory that it is global which you don't. The reason I am presenting or defending it can be global is because there is no conclusive evidence to prove it is not there is always that possibility that it is global if it is global. Modern science has now agree or have strong theories that a global flood did occurred thousand of years ago and that such global flooding can happen again in the future.

Teleportation, psychic mind control and the Philosopher's Stone are still impossible although scientist are closely targeting teleportation and time travelling in fact they have very strong theories in that field that they strongly believe they can make it happen just like their new discovery of the God-particle a particle that decades ago was consider impossible but they know it is out there. When God said "nothing is impossible" this phrase became the motivating words for many scientist, researchers and engineers to explore and go where no man has done or gone before (sound familiar).

 

because you have nothing concrete and truthful and the sad part is you have reconcile to yourself to stick to your own false world.

 

Wrong, you know there is not enough water or climate change to cause global flooding and I don't agree with you because history and events but most of all scientist do not agree with you and your associates position. The Catholic church has always been in the forefront in scientific and medical research and development that has contributed greatly in the advancement of modern science and medicine.

 

So, you refuse to back up your wild claims with reputable scientific publications. I am not even remotely surprised.

Yes. What did he say that made you think he supports your claims?

You have shared videos. Not peer-reviewed science. And you are the one making an extraordinary claim, not me.

Way to miss the point. Deliberately, perhaps?

 

Those videos are from members of reputable scientific community and are equivalent to reputable scientific publications I am not very surprise that you have not provided any reputable sources except Wikipedia and your personal opinion maybe you will be sharing some reputable information very soon to back up your claim?

What do you think that what he said doe snot support global flooding?

Here is what he thinks;

As cosmologist Stephen Hawking celebrates his 70th birthday he warns that climate change is one of a greatest threats posed to the future of human-kind and the world.

In an interview ahead of his birthday this Sunday (8 January), Professor Hawking spoke to BBC’s Radio 4 Today Programme and answered questions put to him by listeners.

He said: “It is possible that the human race could become extinct but it is not inevitable. I think it is almost certain that a disaster, such as nuclear war or global warming will befall the earth within a thousand years.”

- See more at: http://www.rtcc.org/2012/01/06/step...-ahead-of-70th-birthday/#sthash.Sclu1eG4.dpuf

You can ask yourself what is that climate change???

There you go again, those videos are not produce by me or by the Catholic church it was by the reputable scientific community. I feel comfortable because I agree with their theories that runs parallel with the Bible especially with Noah's flood.

Here watch this video again and tell me why are you deliberately ignoring science and refusing to present any sources to back up your claims?
[video=youtube;G76QeE2kM98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G76QeE2kM98[/video]
[video=youtube;YtZhPGo9wtw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtZhPGo9wtw[/video]

That is why the Catholic church has no problem with science.

 

Yadda yadda. All I'm hearing from you is "I cant back this up with actual scientific writing. All I have are videos. I am too lazy to even paraphrase whats in the video."

What are you, four years old? That's not how adults debate things. If you think someone supports your position, quote them. Otherwise admit it was a lie. Put up or shut up, as they say.

Oh, he thinks that there may be climate change? Well, whoop de do. So do I. But nothing on that page talks about the world being covered in water higher than the mountains. In fact the word 'flood' doesnt even appear.

Try again, you failed as usual.

Hard to say exactly, but I know what it CANNOT be: floods that reach the mountaintops.

This isn't Facebook. If you have an argument to make, make it yourself.

 

You don't get it.

The probability that Monkey's might fly out of my butt are the same as your statement..."Jesus Christ is God and through Him the One True God was reveal. God became man as Jesus Christ He dwell with men, He reveal to us His true Kingdom and that we are all His children."

Both are highly improbable in the extreme but cannot be 100% definitively disproven as a possibility.

AboveAlpha

 

Well if you are too lazy there is nothing I can do about that the important thing I agree with science and the Bible you on the other hand only agree with yourself you are your own source which really is not a reputable source.

Do you know how to debate? I am not here to debate I am here to present facts and truth you can't even present any supporting documents or videos to back up your claims. The only lie is your refusal and continue to dodge in presenting supporting documents and or videos. Then you should shut up but I would not want that I want you to learn not shut up.

Good now you have accepted some reference but you need to expand your horizon further such as what comes next in climate change and what is it that Steven Hawking is so concern about with climate change that he is warning us to change our ways? Doesn't he sound like a prophet?

I am not trying I am presenting facts and you just kept on stumbling on your own failures.

Your sink experiment prove it can.

You need to stay up to date with technology see one point in time Facebook, internet, YouTube, IPhone, Notepad, Electronic book etc. were all once impossible now they are real.