Noah's Flood part II

So I'm not seeing any actual topic on the flood.

 

There is a flood of disinformation flowing around.

 

As most of the Biblical creation 'story' comes from earlier 'stories' perhaps that should read 'I have learned through education and knowledge the truth of earlier 'stories'.. etc'.
I don't know what you mean by 'Catholic'. The whole diverse church or the Roman Catholic church?

Again you misquote me. I didn't say I wasted my time becoming a Christian. In fact it has helped widen my understanding and brought me to the position I am in today. By studying the Bible, it's writings in comparison with older writings, the background on which it was written, and trying to understand the Jewish way of thinking at the time it was written, I am where I am today.

And for the Moderators peace of mind - Noahs flood never happened as recorded in the Bible

 

what did you expect? the OP was OT

 

There never was a flood. If there was, we would see a population bottleneck in all animals on Earth. We don't, so there is evidence the flood never happened.

 

That's well worth repeating. The main reason to discount claims of a worldwide flood is the complete lack of evidence.

 

I know, the thing is if we can not understand human evolution that humans are not apes nor evolved from such how can we understand the Great Flood or Global Flood? Already there are some ppl who don't even accept their own science that believe a global weather disturbance was the cause of the extinction of the dinosaurs and the reshaping of the earth's continents that super storms, super hurricanes, super tornadoes, super tidal waves can wipe out entire villages and civilizations these civilization that are mostly located near coastal areas with small population no modern means of transportation or communication to escape such massive super weather disturbance . In fact the same modern scientist are predicting that the earth is due to experience another global weather calamity.

Noah's flood can be analogized with such events that claim to be of global scale such as WWI or WWII was there war in the whole world fighting every where or was the war concentrated in certain regions only? How about World Series did the whole world took part in such event or does it involves USA baseball teams only?

 

It is through the Bible that we learn and later expanded our knowledge of horizon to learn more about God's creative and almighty power the process of creation and it is this same process that we have and are adapting to create, discover and invent new medicines, technology, robotics, cloning, and space travel. That is why the church has been in the fore front pf science, philosophy and medicine since the 1st century.

Albert Einstein quoted very well: I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.

Catholic means universal centuries before other Christians separated from the Catholic church to start their own churches.

And it is because of the Bible that we have information about the past and a blue print as to how to proceed to the future.

Noah's flood never happened to those who don't want to believe or don't want it to have happened, Noah's flood was recorded in the Bible to give us the understanding of weather in terms of science and geography, morality in terms of philosophy and God / Satan in term of faith and religion.

 

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We do understand that humans evolved from apes.
There is no evidence that there was ever a great flood, though there is evidence to the contrary.
You can make up your own religion, but you can't make up your own science.

And when you compare your Bible stories to American ego in claiming to be World Champions without playing the world, you're not doing yourself any favors.

 

Do not underestimate the power and ability of nature or God. Men has already the ability to multiply human population faster than the natural process they can make a woman give birth multiple times.
Up to now many people always underestimate nature that is why many always get caught off guard they build anti earthquake structures and yet when mother nature hit those structures falls. They build super dam, or levy but withiout proper maintenance mother nature will eventually bring those dams down.
in 2000 years how fast do you think human population will have grown base on three couples?

 

There is total lack of evidence that humans evolved from apes or are apes and yet many here believe that humans are apes and evolved from apes base on the theories and science fictions that is being presented to the general public that started during the colonial European years in the 18th century and people are ready to blindly accept to the point that they will give all kinds of explanation to redefine ape as something not referring to actual apes even though modern science has already progress so much to prove that humans are not apes, did not evolved from apes and most of all the term "ape" was coined during that era of European colonial years to exert themselves and their dominance over the other civilizations and newly discovered ones.

 

you dont even know what a population bottleneck is, guy.

do not underestimate how mixed up you can be.

 

None of that is true, of course, but nice dodge attempt from the FACT that there is no (zero)
physical evidence that your silly flood story is anything but a myth.

Why do you try to change the subject, talking about apes? Cant f ace the uncomfortable
reality that there is no evidence for your flood, huh?

Please explain how there could have been a flood, but there is now no evidence of it.
(oh and if you get that taken care of, tell us how there could have been a flood and yet
the polar ice has been sitting there undisturbed for tens of thousands of years)

 

Now we switch to "physical evidence" as opposed to empirical evidence. How convenient. Seems now that cherry picking the evidence is the key note of the day.

Now you switch back to just plain ole ordinary "evidence"... leaving the doorway open to accept once again, that evidence which is empirical... (which would include the evidence found in religious experience).

And again, there is 'evidence'. It is called religious experience.

Now you lean back on those magic numbers.. numbers derived from some man made equipment which can be made to produce any type of result required to meet the agenda of the operator or programmer on that man made equipment. It is also another switch back to physical evidence. Seems uncertain what type of 'evidence' you are considering or are willing to consider.

 

So you're now saying that "Noah's Flood" was localized? Just Mesopotamia or Turkey/Iran....NOT the entire world....

which contradicts what the Bible says?

 

Well thank you for the non answer. Your rubbish has NOTHING to do with population bottlenecks and how its evidence that the great flood did not happen.

Perhaps if you understood genetics, you would see why your answer is pure rubbish.

 

Such a demonstrable lack of understanding of the evolutionary process as evidenced by the above, is inimical to simple explanation.

 

Such a demonstrable lack of understanding of the topic of this thread as evidenced by the above, is inimical to proper usage of the thread.

 

Evolution = genetics...which you freely admit you are ignorant of....so how can you critique Colonel K?

 

Noah's Flood part II
does not equal "evolution = genetics".

 

Evolution = genetics...which you freely admit you are ignorant of....so how can you critique Colonel K?

 

Simple. I get in position to start typing and lo and behold... a critique happens to appear.

 

Non-answer so I will ask again:

Evolution = genetics...which you freely admit you are ignorant of....so how can you critique Colonel K?

 

And I reply once again:
Simple. I get in position to start typing and lo and behold... a critique happens to appear.

you asked "how"... the "how" has nothing to do with my understanding of genetics or evolution...

 

The Bible was written 1st millenia BCE. The stories from which it is compiled date from 2-3.5 millenia BCE. So how can you tell us the Bible is the informative script. With you posting tripe and Incorporeal not even prepared to consider scientific proof this is a waste of time.