not freedom of speech

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  1. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    If a right was a right then it would be against the law to take people's rights away. But, laws are laws. Laws tell us what we can do and what we can't do. And laws are made through democracy. Are you against democracy?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""
    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?

    The right to bodily autonomy is a right.




    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""


    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?
     
  3. Starcastle

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    I do not feel comfortable with the law. I understand the problem and what they are trying to achieve I just think there is a slippery slope.

    Perhaps they should create more legal remedies for people who feel they are being treated unfairly at work because of their race.

    I do not like any law where the government tells people what they cannot say or must say. I prefer legal remedies to government mandating what an employer can teach or say.
     
  4. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    A woman's right to bodily autonomy? Why only women? But vaccine mandates are ok?

    By the way what is a woman? Biden's SC nomination cannot define what that is so how is she going to safeguard bodily autonomy for one?
     
  5. independentthinker

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    If that was a right then it would be against the law to refuse that right and yet it is the laws in some states which seem to say otherwise, meaning it can't be a right if it is not against the law and is, in fact, the law.
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""
    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    The right to bodily autonomy is a right.




    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""


    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?




    The right to bodily autonomy is a right. ...why do want to deny that right to women?
     
  7. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    If someone's rights are violated, that is against the law. So, if the law says that abortion is not legal after a certain time period, then that is the law. No rights are violated. This seems to be very hard for you to understand.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""
    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    The right to bodily autonomy is a right.




    YOU are the one who posted "..the left believe they can do anything they want but want to limit the rights of others to do anything they want.""


    I showed an example of the opposite since righties want to destroy women's right to bodily autonomy, one of the most important rights of all...
    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?



    No, rights are rights and the righties want to destroy women's right to their own bodies..

    Are you saying it's OK for the righties to be against democracy and rights?






    The right to bodily autonomy is a right. ...why do want to deny that right to women?

    And WHO wants to ban abortion altogether destroying women's right to bodily autonomy? RIGHTIES.

    And YES sometimes laws DO violate rights...bad laws , made by the RIGHTIES.
     
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    Is this the abortion forum? Clearly, any opinions opposed to pro-abortionists are not allowed in that forum. Is that why the pro-abortionists are trying to troll every thread into an abortion thread?
     
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  11. independentthinker

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    Why are you against democracy? Why is it you want to take democracy away? Republicans in red states used democracy and the democratic process to pass laws which, apparently, you don't like. Do you want to override democracy and take democracy away? Who's attacking democracy now?
     
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    Holy mackerel!

    Has anyone on here actually taken any of these training classes?

    I've taken so many of these I've lost count. None of what you guys are claiming it is even remotely in it. Most of them guide you to thinking about how others might interpret your words, and if there's any doubt, don't say it. It's common sense for the most part.

    But of course, this isn't about common sense, it's about this sickness that has strangled the party of Lincoln to the point it is 100% unrecognizable.
     

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