not freedom of speech

Sounds like a great method for states to regulate the racist indoctrination currently being shoved on employees. I have attended the classes. All that micro aggression bs, its time employees had some legal rights against this kind of conscription.

 

So, here's the thing. The history that I was taught in school was the ugly version. No measures were made to excuse, or otherwise not discuss history in all its awful, warts and all. We learned, early, that slavery was brutal, horrific for the enslaved, etc. We learned about the camps, both Nazi and US internment, we learned about the horrors of indian reservations (well, to be honest, what schools teach, and what the actual realities of the reservations still don't fairly express the blight or the squalor of them). We learned about all of it. No one needed to say, "hey, slavery was bad". Why? Because simply providing an honest description of slavery was sufficient to instill in every student just how horrible is was.

But what we never did was teach how to be horrible like that in school. What modern teaching is doing to kids is inexcusable. Kids definitely don't need to be playing pretend slave owners, or other BS that have been reported in the media.

I do also firmly agree with you that it isn't a public school's role to teach hate, against any group. And yet, that's where we seem to find ourselves today. We must stop schools from indoctrinating our children in this marxist ideological model.

 

Unfortunately, politics and authoritarianism have permeated every aspect of American society.

 

Yes, but they are not free to stop someone else from speaking. See the difference?

 

Critical Race Theory is only found in grad school. That means you have to have a college degree, and some law courses under your belt.

I know you guys love your lies, and all, but this sort of thing belongs in dive bars, among guys that have trouble standing up...

 

Well one of us, must have had a very exceptional education: exceptionally good, based on your description or, if that were in fact not extremely atypical of U.S. education, then I guess mine must have been unusually bad. We learned a little about such things, but I would not say that were given even a close approximation of the true picture of racism, in America's history, in my primary schools.

Tell me, did they teach you about the mass parade, to intimidate our government, held in Washington, D.C., by the Klu Klux Klan? How about the Tulsa, Oklahoma race riot? What grades, would you approximate, these were part of your school curriculum? If both of these had been part of your education, was it a public, or private school? If you learned about either of these, I'd also be curious as to where you attended school.

 

As I recall, not until high school. It probably didn't make sense to discuss those topics in their true light until then. Those are the kinds of events that require some critical thinking, as well as some maturity to understand the potential causalities of them. But, yes, those kinds of events were discussed. You know what else was discussed? African tribal conquest, and the slave trade. The whole picture from how slaves were captured by other tribes and then sold, who bought them, and how interracial exploitation including indentured Irish, english, and other criminal elements from Europe were also included. We also learned about the thousands of years of slavery in every empire globally, to include Asian cultures, S American cultures, European cultures, etc.

Why? So we'd understand the context of slavery, and it's widespread use around the historic cultures of the world. So, we also were allowed to develop the true picture of what slavery was, and is. Do you think that the 40+ Million folks enslaved today have a voice in what is being taught to our kids? Do you suppose that the millions of illegal immigrants flooding into our southern borders are beholden, or indentured to those who pushed them into our country? The millions being trafficked i the sex trades in Asia and the middle east? Do we ever consider them? I'd say, no. What CRT is teaching kids is a very isolated view of man's inhumanity. and only through a bastardized prism of perspective to promote the idea that black america is inherently victimized. I find that abhorrent, but I'm not a progressive... I don't find any value in an entire subset of our population believing in their own victimhood.

 

You can't help those who won't help themselves. Now its Florida's fault you took a job knowing you boss was a tyrant?
Sounds oddly familiar among stories of the left.

 

In the year before I retired, all of us lower-level managers in the Fortune 50 Prime Contractor I worked for had to undergo quite a lot of 'training' about homosexuals, and, especially -- racial issues. BTW, in our entire sector, I was never aware of anyone being 'discriminated against' because of sexual preference(s) or because of race. I had a Black person on my team and that person was treated just as well (or shabbily) as all the rest of us....

Anyway, that was well over five years ago, but now, of course, the whole country has to have its attention RIVETED on all this stuff which supposedly orbits around the 'realtiy' of as many as FIFTY-TWO possible 'genders', and, of course, the unending horrors of RACISM!

Perhaps soon, more and more of you will get to retire, and when you do you'll think, "OH, why the hell didn't I do this sooner?! My mental health has improved 1,000% ever since I got out of the corporate insane asylum!"

. "Now, we're going to re-read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" to make sure you 'get it'!"

 

The same with this law. They remain free to speak, and those they harm are free to pursue financial damages for the harm the court determines they inflicted. Do you want those that violate the rights of others to shielded from just repercussion?

 

Check out the felony murder laws. A person engaged in a felony is held responsible for a murder committed by someone else.

 

Your comparison is nul because they unlike the employees being fed guilt trips by their employer actually didn’t personally do anything wrong at all

 

Working =/= Committing a Felony

 

What free speech? You are guaranteed to say any damn fool thing you want you are not guaranteed a captive audience that must listen to your crap.

 

To be completely honest, I personally do not believe your claim that you learned all of this in your primary education but, as you did not address my questions as to whether you attended a private, or public school (and where that school was located), I certainly won't call it a fiction, though the opinions you express in the unquoted balance of your post, give the impression that it is. I will simply, and truthfully, say that I would be all in favor of the type of thorough historical background, you maintain was part of your own educational foundation; however, with rare exception, this is absolutely NOT the average American child's school experience; and certainly not the public school experience, for any significant number of students.

My point, then-- just to underline it, for you-- is that your own, highly unusual experience, has no bearing on the importance of adding anti-racism education to the system, we currently have. That is not to say, that I might not, also, take issue with some of the techniques that are being employed. My sense is that this is not a well- coordinated effort but, rather, is being treated state by state, addressed in each school district, uniquely, and implemented at the school- by- school level, if not even based upon the discretion of every individual teacher, within those schools. Some national guidelines, at least, would probably be helpful. But I do not feel I have a comprehensive understanding of how this anti- prejudice education is presently being employed throughout the American educational system, to be at all qualified to appraise that overall effort; nor, do I believe, that you possess those qualifications.

 

Corporations should never be considered private business. It's a public entity with no specific owner.
Its the job of the State to protect the freedoms of private individuals, not giant monopolistic organisms, over the right of an individual.

 

And you can be held financially accountable for the harm that you cause.

 

Silly me, it's dog whistle racism.

 

I own a corporation. It is a private business. There is nothing giant or monopolistic about it. Public businesses are those that sell shares to the public.

 

I simply corrected your statement. Feel free to ignore the correction.

 

Look up sarcasm.

 

Consider it done…

 

In my experience the trainings are more about not making others feel uncomfortable with crass race or gender based jokes, and making sure I rise above suspicion when it comes to treating people differently by race or sex. Maybe Florida is a different planet where employers would bother talking about slavery, but I doubt it. DeSantis is doing the typical conservative thing of manufacturing cultural issues to rally dumb people, probably.

 

So you think people who disagree with you on this issue are “dumb people, probably.”?

 

Fact is, the red team took over Virginia recently because the wokies had just gone too far with CRT. Same thing with 3 progressives being booted out of highly liberal San Francisco's school board. The left are trying to brainwash people both at school and at work. They're going too far, making conservative laws necessary to stop the absurdity.