NRA chief calls gun ownership a 'fundamental human right,' rejects calls for new restrictions

Absolutely. And just like a butter knife, if they use it to murder someone they’ll go to prison.

 

More people moving away from the biggest cities to small ones and rural means support for the 2A grows. We need to protect targets of bad people and track and treat bad people instead of punishing the law abiding for the acts of the criminally insane

 

Our founding document with the Thesis Statement for the purpose of our government is contained in the Declaration. The preamble of the constitution, which comes later, alerts us that more perfectly securing the rights that began with the Declaration is a multi-generational task that is passed from our parents and handed to our children.

The OP title is correct, in our system lethal self defense is a fundamental right.

Do you have problem with the Secret Service being armed?
Do you have a problem with privileged members of our society being protected with armed security?
Do you have a problem with this truck having an armed driver and an armed passenger:

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I don't think some do.
Another thought we should ban kids from the pool or beach because kids can drown.

 

It is a sacred God given inalienable human right. It long predates any UN declaration. I stand by what Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence and the authors of the US constitution say

 

I absolutely do! So tell me, how will you go about taking those items away from the inner city thugs, gang bangers, children and stop them from acquiring more from the open borders and all the firearm manufacturers around the globe eager to replenish the criminal in our country?

I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting something of substance in the matter

 

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I go by the actual Constitution which says nothing about your imaginary god.

If you are ever ready to learn what America is really about, just ask.

 

The rest of your post should not have been attributed to me. Don't know who you were responding to.

What ruling of the USSC are you referring to?
Shall not be infringed is pretty clear. Any infringement is against the 2A.

 

Always the end a futile gun debate, the ridiculous!

 

I never opposed the attempt to amend the constitution. That is the correct method. Good luck getting 2/3 of both houses of congress or 2/3 of the states to approve a proposed change and then get 3/4 of the 50 states to ratify your change. We can have that debate.

 

And you're suggesting I read lol

 

Not possible under this constitution

 

Are you seriously going to argue that your fake news disinformation slanderous claim is "true" even though normalizing for population doesn't just modify it, it completely destroys it?

What kind of a fake news liar, and I don't mean you, I understand that you are simply repeating what you have heard from others, pretends that a legitimate comparison can be made between different sized nations without normalizing for population? The mind boggles. Your sources are either complete idiots, or supremely confident that their audience is made up of total idiots. With how terribly they treat you, they don't deserve you. You deserve much much better.

But yes, the title of this panel is correct. In our system lethal self defense is a fundamental right, not just for the privileged, but for every one of us. As a Free People we have no Lords nor Ladies. We have no Nobility that are entitled to special treatment and protection. That is expressly forbidden by our constitution. ALL just authority is derived from We The People. That is the very essence of what it means to be a Free Citizen with a government that is accountable to us, and exists to serve us, not rule over us. You seem to have little understanding of what it means to live in a Constitutional Liberal Democracy.

 

I worked 13 years in group homes for the severely emotionally disturbed at risk youth before the 23 years now in education most of which was for those same kids in an educational setting here in California.

 

So why are some if not all of those I listed illegal to own?
And has the USSC ruled on those laws being against the 2A?

 

It was a gun rights person who said to stop kids from going to the beach or pool.
And yes, the gun debate is ridiculous, for gun rights people are all for banning certain arms.

But I guess you don't read enough to see that.

 

I don't suggest you read anything.
Except perhaps some claim you make, you should read to see if it's accurate.

What USSC ruling are you referring to?

 

That's a pay site. I was unable to examine what they called "developed" or even if what they called "gun violence" was restricted to unlawful violence against another, or if they cherry picked a time period.

You have to be careful, for example, the way some fake news disinformation artists count, the WV woman who used lawful force to stop unlawful force would be counted as a failure when it's an obvious success.

 

No he didn’t. You completely twisted what was said to come up with that tripe. You are not being truthful with yourself or others if that’s what you took from it.

 

Actually it does. And the constitution also says our individual right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

I didn’t say the Second hadn’t been ruled upon incorrectly. It has. The issue is you cannot justify any other reading of the second.

The only argument one might be able to proffer reasonably is that it has to be a weapon which can be carried on ones person. But outside of that I don’t see how anything else can be read in the second.

 

A literal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment says you are allowed to kill one bear and keep the arms. Prove me wrong.

Bear arms

 

On a more serious note: Nowhere is anyone given the right to purchase ammunition.

 

C'mon... no false modesty..... you made the case perfectly, if inadvertently...

99% of Americans who own guns are violating the Constitution, and the law, per Cornell.com...

 

~ It most certainly does apply — now more than ever. Sadly it appears "the people " may eventually find themselves at odds with not only the State, but the Federal government as well . America has had several presidents who knowingly violate the U.S. Constitution. The DOJ and FBI are proven to be corrupt and cannot be trusted.
Patrick Henry was correct .

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