Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. fmw

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    I haven't denied reality. Your reality is different from mine.
     
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    OK. You have a point there. Truth doesn't matter when propagandists rule the airwaves.
     
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    That's impossible. Unless you inhabit a parallel universe. And also post in this one.

    The reality is revealing the whisteblower's name just let's republicans try to shift the focus from Trump's wrong doing, of which there is evidence of aside from just accusations by the whistle blower, to the person who made the compliant being biased against Trump. They are already doing that and it's fine, it's part of the game. That's a simple statement and is largely the reality we both inhabit. Any other reasoning to reveal the identity is a lie to disguise the above motive, but that's comical given it's apparent and already accepted by those of us on the other side. You should admit it because it's the reality we all know and accept.
     
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    There is opinion about wrong doing, no evidence that I have seen. By the way, the grass is greener in my universe.
     
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    Trump has already admitted that nothing he says or does helps him with the left. So he is going about his business without them.
     
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    No evidence you choose to see. There is evidence, it's in the summary of the phone call released. It's also available in the full transcript which was not only hidden away, but KNOWINGLY done so by a national security council lawyer which is NOT what they are supposed to do. Is this impeachable wrong doing? That question is yet to be answered, hence what the inquiry and vote on impeachment will be. Denial is the problem here. You are denying who Trump himself has bragged about being, someone who flaunts the rules for his own personal gain. He's SAID that about himself before, so this no surprise and nothing you need to defend him from. Him being impeached may not be the worst thing to happen to the man, it may finally show him that he IS accountable to something in his life.
     
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    The transcript showed no evidence of a crime.

    I haven't even heard of another transcript. Sounds like somebody made something up. Call me a denier but I am simply ignorant of this.

    Wrong doing has nothing to do with this impeachment. This is all about hurting Trump's re-election campaign along with a big dose of hatred.

    I have never denied that Trump is a braggart. I have said he is on this forum many times. That has nothing to do with this. I'm embarrassed for you that you thought it did. You and I really are on different universes. You will get over it.
     
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    I think they are investigating corruption within the Obama administration. Most people already know that some illegal things happened.

    Of course, if you suspect that they did something illegal.
     
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    The whistleblower complaint is classified. It was declassified by the house, who had the ability to declassify the information unilaterally even if it wasn't in a whistleblower complaint. But they wouldn't need that for the impeachment inquiry to take place (the declassification).

    Im just not sure what purpose a whistleblower serves in this case if they had the intel and the power to declassify it, or if they had the power to have the inquiry without the whistleblower.

    Im really not sure if it creates political cover for them even.
     
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    No, its not. The core here is that their is not even a shred of evidence that the Bidens did ANYTHING illegal. This is an investigation in search of a crime, and literally the definition of "witch hunt". What the President did in asking a foreign government to investigate his main political rival is illegal.

    There is no hypocrisy when the investigation into Trump asking for the investigation from a foreign power is set in facts. Facts that were proven when Trump released his transcription memo.
     
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    NO. He was NOT even with the company when the corruption investigation started.

    And FTR, Joe Biden wanted a new prosecutor because the one they had was not doing his job in rooting out the corruption. Joe was asking for a tougher prosecutor !!!!
     
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    Just WOW...FOR THE LAST TIME !!!!!!!

    https://www.justice.gov/olc

     
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    Giggles
     
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    Wow, now that you got that off you chest you may want to look at some facts......

    If Schiff had evidence on what the President was doing, he wouldn't need a whistleblower.....but in true right wing fashion your attacking the WB's character and not the accusations. But then again thew accusations stand on their own. If you want to discuss the accusations, you know where to find me
     
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    Which business ? Daddys ?
     
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    Biden didn't have the power to withhold the money ?

    BUT, if this is the case against Biden, then isn't this exactly what Trump is accused of doing ?
     
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    But you have to have a crime before you can "investigate". Show me a crime, and I'm all in for an investigation. Dem or repub, they all need to be held accountable
     
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    There isn't a shred of evidence that Trump did anything wrong, either.

    This hoax is even more transparently fraudulent than the RUSSIA! hoax.

    It amazes me that the entire population doesn't laugh these hoaxters out of office. The levels to which people will stoop is shocking.
     
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    Thats was public knowledge when he made the comment.
     
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    TC, he literally asked a foreign power to investigate his political rival. Thats illegal.
     
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    It's what Trump is being falsly accused of.
     
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    It's not illegal.
     
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    So then we should find out if they did hold the money then right ? BOTH of them
     
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