Obama administration confirms double-digit premium hikes

Where's the fallacy? If one is pro-choice for a woman's personal health, one should also be pro-choice for when//what and at what price they buy it at. You can't pick and choose rights, unless of course you're a Liberal.

 

Who decides the wait times?

 

Good. Let's be done with this debacle. We're the only civilized nation on the planet without socialized medicine, worker protection laws, maternity and paternity leave paid, etc.

Time to get on board with change, or die on the vine.

 

Ate you really trying to claim they have not passed and sent legialtion to a Democrat Senate and A Democrat President?

And it's not THEIR MESS is it.

As I said the knee jerk reaction....blame the Republicans

Now try again what has Obama and his fellow Democrats done to fix this measure THEY created? What have they even admitted is wrong and needs to be fixed? What is Clinton saying she will do to fix it?

 

To prove that not everyone was negatively impacted by ACA as you imply and for me its very true since I've got employer based medical insurance, which btw over 3/4 of the working population has.

All along over the past few years i've maintained the same statement you suddenly took notice of and now for you its an apparent problem; either you never really read my posts or it never sunk in until now.

 

Yeah...uh huh and it hasnt gone up at all, its just that you wont tell us which plan it is because you dont want me to fact check it. Lol...
Obamacare is going up 116% in some states....enjoy that at the polls.

 

Yes, you could go to the ER and get treatment for your ailment; if you show up in cardiac arrest or a stroke of course they'll treat you, stabilize you and eventually release you from the hospital; but the underlying problems are still present which will eventually come back and quite possibly kill you. I know this from experience, having this happen in my family. ER's do not as a rule do preventative medicine such as check ups, etc.

I personally have a friend who had a pre-existing condition and was unable to purchase medical insurance; without treatment, this person's condition would have eventually caused her death. Once ACA came into being, she was able to purchase medical insurance, get treatment and will most likely live a full, productive life. So it can be said that ACA has saved lives. To me that makes it all worth it.

That may be for certain employees; for me, being union, my benefits are bargained for collectively so that has never been an issue for me. For those employers, they need to determine which is more important for the employees, their health and well being or wages. Common sense dictates that no amount of wage increase is doing you any good if you die from a medical condition because you had no medical condition.

Not necessarily, first off, you can write off all your medical expenses from your income taxes; secondly there are other plans out there such as the Gold or Silver plans, while more expensive then the Bronze plan, pay more towards your medical costs; thirdly if you cannot afford the premiums then there are subsidies you can apply for.

Either way, there are ways to secure medical insurance; you can shop around and purchase it, you can request your employer offer a medical benefits package or you can unionize and bargain for it collectively.

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Both you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this thread.

 

Gotta love the false dichotomies. I guess logic and reason are not strong suits of the left.

 

There's no dichotomy. We've had decades of failed medical policy, families bankrupt because according to demagogues on the right they lacked the foresight to know they'd have a family illness kill their finances and plan accordingly.

The entire thing is a fraud. Ivory tower demagoguery by supporters who've never experienced life from a different perspective.

Want to hear a dichotomy? Being pro-freedom, yet endorsing the largest police state on the planet by refusing to endorse legalizing a plant that if home grown could be used to eradicate vast swathes of opiates on the market.

That's a dichotomy.

Thank your drooling, slobbering royal dictators for the agenda you push.

 

Obamacare is proof the government can't do anything right.

 

I can only imagine suffering with sciatica for 2 and a half months before I can even see a specialist.

 

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" - Ronald Reagan

 

Many will "die on the vine" while they have to wait a year for an MRI and other life saving diagnostics, or to see a specialist. And we are already 20 trillion in debt with nearly 200 in unfunded liabilities. Hundreds of billions per year deficits, with about a 1% annual growth in the economy. The solution for leftists like you? Spend more! More debt! More illegal aliens!

Just as long as well-off white progressives get what they want, am I right?

 

And for every friend you can cite there are probably a thousand who can no longer afford to have insurance or if they do can no longer afford to use it. Was it worth it?

Ahhh so if they cut wages in half so they can afford the health insurance the employees will be better off? And the employers or the government should be making that decision for the employee not the employee?

Do you not know how such medical deductions are calculated? First you have to itemizing which most tax payers do not do, 68.5% of taxpayers last year. Then you can only deduct those expenses over 7.5% of your adjusted gross income which most people don't hit.

YES at a much higher premium and STILL with huge deductibles.

Yeah in stead of you paying for you health insurance I get to pay for it..............wow what a deal for me. It doesn't mean the insurance COST anything less you are just making someone else pick up that cost.

Ahhh some states only have ONE provider now and more headed that way and the policies and cost are all basically the same as they are dictated by Obamacare.

How does that lower the cost of the insurance the company now has to purchase, you know the plans dictated by Obamacare?

Are you disagreeing that rates are going through the roof and deductibles right along with them and that people are dropping their insurance entirely because they can no longer afford it?

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And yet the left and the progressives want to turn it ENTIRELY over to them.